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Timing Question.

Pythias

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"the book" says that a 1098 should be timed at 8 degrees advance at 600 rpm, yet it give 1000 rpm as speed at idle.

Using a simple timing light, what should be the advance at 1000 rpm idle? (with vacuum advance disconnected)
 
i'm not sure what the question is but if your asking will the 8* change from 600 to 1000 i don't think so. your best bet is to set it at the spec at 1000 and drive it. advance a couple degrees at a time until it pings then retard a little. i do it up a hill, car hot and leave dist just loose enough to tap it back and forth. hope that helps.
 
Yeah, this is a perpetual dilemma. The shop manuals give an initial timing spec, with no centrifugal advance. Then, if you check the advance curves for the distributor, the normal idle speed gives a couple degrees of centrifugal advance! I suppose you could slow the sucka down to 600 RPM or so, but that's not really the point.

You have to understand that, even apart from that problem, the fuels we use are not the same as the ones in the 1960s, and this will affect the optimum timing. Also, in consideration of the fact that many engines are modified, the timing spec is not holy writ. Best thing to do, as Bob suggests, is advance it as much as possible without pinging. That cool little adjuster on the distributor makes it easy. That's one thing Lucas did right!
 
I do this back-arsewards, I guess, I normally time a vacuum advance distributor at full advance at 3000 rpms, by then all advance has gotten there. if the car idles fine, I'm done, if not then I worry about checking it at idle. On normal street engine I shoot for around 32 degrees BTDC, you may be able to get way with more, but this is a good safe setting. I think this a method you see alot of prefessional use, because it saves times, and time is money, some of the neatest tricks I learned were never in the manual, but taught to me by factory techs.
 
Part of it is that the timing DOES change from 800 to 1000 and from 1000 to 1200. I don't have a way to set the advance at upper register rpm. I like the idea of "power tuning" that is setting it a little low and cranking it up until it knocks though. Someone also said to not only pull the vacuum hose but to plug it to get the most accurate timing, but that seems a little much for my kind of usage. Thanks for the feedback. (and that little knurled knob IS superb!)
 
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