I have replaced the starter with a new hi-torque model, checked all connections (included cleanig of all), replaced the relay and still nothing. The only thing that happens is that the fuel pump will not stop pumping. I had recently replaced the ignition switch and harness. I have power at the relay brown and red/white connections but nothing at the white/brown connection. This is really frustrating because all connections are clean, dry, or new. I'm about ready to trade it on a corvair or chevette. This is ridiculous. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif