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NutmegCT

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The movie Wall-E comes to mind:


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https://www.npr.org/2017/12/09/568797388/recycling-chaos-in-u-s-as-china-bans-foreign-waste

Imagine how much less waste we'd be dealing with, if we could re-use all our own containers!
 
NutmegCT said:
The movie Wall-E comes to mind:

Imagine how much less waste we'd be dealing with, if we could re-use all our own containers!
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Which is why, when we remodeled our kitchen, I had twin built-in bins installed specifically for recycling.

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Where I live in Georgia they have stopped taking Glass at the recycling center. Said there was no market for glass?
So we have no option but put it in the trash.

They use the single stream recycling system here. Trash, recycling or catchall for big stuff. I often see where people do not bother to make any attempt to separate the recyclable from the trash.

David
 
We had recycling bins installed too (in the kitchen). Very convenient.
Portland is very good about recycling just about everything... but this matter of the Chinese not wanting a lot of it will be creating problems sooner than later. Plastics continue to be difficult.
 
Might just be that if we actually cut down on the plastic containers, the recycling problem would get a heck of a lot smaller.

Just a few of a zillion examples:

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Remember back in the day, when most of the things came in glass or paper?
 
That is why I am amazed that parts of Georgia do not recycle glass anymore. At least not conveniently. I think the big recycling company still takes glass but it is about 15 miles away. The trash/recycle drop off is 3 miles away.
Glass is really easy to recycle into new glass and a host of other products including sand blasting media. Which works very well and is much cleaner than the other media I have used.

David
 
We don't have any recycling near me. I'd have to drive forty minutes to take my things to a recycling center.
 
Do you have garbage pickup or do you have to deal with that yourself? Having to drive that far defeats some of the reasons for recycling.

David
 
David, the tri-city authority does have regular trash pick up once a week. Between the three cities we have around 3,500 people so I think that plays into why we don't have recycling where I live. Ft. Sill used to have recycling but quit and Lawton used to also but they too quit. Now, I would need to drive to Norman to recycle.
 
Plastic is becoming the new "bad kid"... It is showing up in places that we don't like to see it (polyester in our drinking water, garbage patch in the oceans, for example). But it is inexpensive and awfully convenient! For example, I am wearing a warm polartec sweater. And the consequences are not fully understood; so what if I drink a little polyester? Is the solution to add a filter, or perhaps more expensively an RO system? Or just drink the stuff and move on. Don't know, but I think we will hear a lot more in the near future.
 
Skip the Polar Fleece. Every time you wash it it sheds its plastic badness into our environs. The folks in the picture Nutmeg posted are all wearing synthetics. These articles of clothing are eventually given the heave and are generally not recycled. Micro fiber, plastic wood, kids toys and the like are slowly and inexorably strangling our world. I try to use paper and wear natural fibers ( even they are developed with poisons, cotton being one of the worst offenders chemical wise. We may be beyond the ipping point already. In my county recycling is king yet we have far to go. Of course I am culpable as the rest. I love my cars and we all know what is wrapped up in the use and repair of them. How long our hobby will last is a good question for this forum. The earth we leave for our successors should be viable, if not wonderful. I cringe when I read that folks like Steven Hawking give us 100 yrs to leave the planet. So I try in my small way to make a difference. I believe we are here to help others when we can. Thanks for reading this, it is a strange yet wonderful world we inhabit. :soapbox: Pardon my rant.
 
" So I try in my small way to make a difference. I believe we are here to help others when we can. Thanks for reading this, it is a strange yet wonderful world we inhabit."

Wise words indeed. Wish more folks followed that idea. The Golden Rule comes to mind.


 
I have a dimmer view. When I was born, there was about 3.5 billion people on this planet. As of October of this year, it is 7.6 billion according to the most recent United Nations estimates elaborated by Worldometers. More than double what it was 50 years ago. Everyone would have to cut back more than half of their consumables to break even. That is just now, in a few years half won't be enough.
 
Yep... the carrying-capacity has surely been met (or exceeded). Hate to think about the world in 50 years.
 
On vacation a couple of years ago at the beach my wife and I visited a local state park and in talking to one of the rangers he mentioned that we had missed the beach clean up day. I think we were saying how clean the beach was.
So we volunteered to do our bit and got a 40 gallon trash bag each and set off down the beach. It was a mile between beach access points and before we got to the next access point we had both filled our bags with plastic, plastic and plastic. It was amazing the different types of plastic we got.
WE both felt we had done a little to help but there was another 20 miles of beach and I am sure if we had turned around with new bags we could have filled them as well.
David
 
Population growth curve is almost vertical now. Similar to the rise in body temperature of a person in the last stages of an infection.

There are two ways the temperature rise can stop. The infection is controlled ... or the host dies.

We're the infection. Earth is the host.

This could be us in a hundred years -

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https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/ockhamsrazor/4984812

(Just wanted to cheer everyone up...)
 
Tom said:
(Just wanted to cheer everyone up...)
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Yeah, that helped. :smirk:

Grew up with a mother who was like a drill sergeant; Beds to be made (hospital corners, etc.) every morning, no sugary soft drinks, fresh fruits and veggies in season and home-canned over the winters. Cotton or wool for clothing and all else. Her prediction for mankind was that we would devolve into a pile of machine dependent protoplasm, with one digit, to push the "food" button. Looking back, with the increase in cases of Alzheimers, Parkinsons, cancers etc. her disdain of plastics and all petrochemical products may have been justified.

She would often say: "Love your Mother (Earth)". Much harder to do in this day and age.
 
hooboi. Yup, that ad was one she liked. Mom would never use synthetic butter, though. She railed against it, called it bearing grease.
 
My mother was the same, margarine was some crap foisted on the public. It is one of the few, if not the only foodstuff, that insects will not eat. Skippy and Jif were verboten also due to the added sugar and the dreaded hydrogenated vegetable oil.
 
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