Yeh I should have reread the Haynes again Randle because the bolts do not go through like on a late 3 or tr4, but the heat and BFH did the job. I remember turning them 60 degrees back in the day and that would work kinda most of the time, but again I have a memory of having to carry a little wrench and turn the starter drive back off the flywheel and the most inopportune times, oh that noise.