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Recommended reproduction wheels?
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IMHO, nothing looks better on a 100 than Borranis. Dead sexy and verrrryyyy expensive:
And for you guys worrying about cleaning your chrome rims, I highly recommend this stuff:
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Compromise; these ae are 70-spoke.
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Hi All,
Whether your preference is 72 or 60 spoke, 5" or 5 1/2" rims, the fact is that the present manufacture of the wheels, along with included/available features, are not what they were with earlier available models and a decision should be made on the latest documentation of features and experiences. Yes, I happen to have preferred the 72 spoke Daytons 20+ years ago but ... what else was available. How the wheels were manufactured back then could be similar to how this is done today...but probably different systems and suppliers are involved and designs changed (even if slightly) and the link to past experiences strained, if not broken.
Keep in mind that the wires that came on my 64 Healey new needed to be checked for true each year and were too narrow for the preferred wider tires of today. I must admit that although I drove my Healey hard, I had only broken 3 spokes on all 5 wheels over a period of the first 30 years using 600x15 Pirelli Cinturato and none since my Dayton 72 spoke chromes with equivalent sized tires. Back in the 60s, 70s, and 80s I could find reasonably-local people who had the equipment and knowledge of spoke wheel serving...even though most primarily focused on motor cycle wheels. Today, no local servicers are available and even balancing the tires and wheels most often would not be done if I didn't carry an old modified hub and knock-off with a hole to allow the accommodation of their spin balancers.
So, what am I saying. Todays wire wheel choices must be made on todays wheels and suppliers with limited support (or detriment) from the satisfaction of past choices (as I have extended for the 72 Daytons). Back then chrome wires were plagued by brittle chromed spokes and stainless was a great alternative. To further that thought, MWS is a relatively new provider of what Dunlop wires could have evolved to but should not be considered as the evolution of Dunlop. Again, if I were to make a wheel choice today, I would select the wheel that allowed the least of servicing interventions and that would include such features as maintaining Trueness, tubeless, and if it was available, self cleaning.
I hate to say this but the choice made is probably going to be with you for quite a while and only after a significant period will you know if it was a good one. If I were to purchase a set of wheels today, it is doubtful that, at 75 years on July 4th, I would have the time/ability to make another 20year evaluation of that choice.
Just my Perspective.
Enjoy your Memorial weekend,
Ray(64BJ8P1) since new
Whether your preference is 72 or 60 spoke, 5" or 5 1/2" rims, the fact is that the present manufacture of the wheels, along with included/available features, are not what they were with earlier available models and a decision should be made on the latest documentation of features and experiences. Yes, I happen to have preferred the 72 spoke Daytons 20+ years ago but ... what else was available. How the wheels were manufactured back then could be similar to how this is done today...but probably different systems and suppliers are involved and designs changed (even if slightly) and the link to past experiences strained, if not broken.
Keep in mind that the wires that came on my 64 Healey new needed to be checked for true each year and were too narrow for the preferred wider tires of today. I must admit that although I drove my Healey hard, I had only broken 3 spokes on all 5 wheels over a period of the first 30 years using 600x15 Pirelli Cinturato and none since my Dayton 72 spoke chromes with equivalent sized tires. Back in the 60s, 70s, and 80s I could find reasonably-local people who had the equipment and knowledge of spoke wheel serving...even though most primarily focused on motor cycle wheels. Today, no local servicers are available and even balancing the tires and wheels most often would not be done if I didn't carry an old modified hub and knock-off with a hole to allow the accommodation of their spin balancers.
So, what am I saying. Todays wire wheel choices must be made on todays wheels and suppliers with limited support (or detriment) from the satisfaction of past choices (as I have extended for the 72 Daytons). Back then chrome wires were plagued by brittle chromed spokes and stainless was a great alternative. To further that thought, MWS is a relatively new provider of what Dunlop wires could have evolved to but should not be considered as the evolution of Dunlop. Again, if I were to make a wheel choice today, I would select the wheel that allowed the least of servicing interventions and that would include such features as maintaining Trueness, tubeless, and if it was available, self cleaning.
I hate to say this but the choice made is probably going to be with you for quite a while and only after a significant period will you know if it was a good one. If I were to purchase a set of wheels today, it is doubtful that, at 75 years on July 4th, I would have the time/ability to make another 20year evaluation of that choice.
Just my Perspective.
Enjoy your Memorial weekend,
Ray(64BJ8P1) since new
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Well said Ray.
I want 72 for strength but what percentage over 60 spoke are the stronger? 20% IDK, are spokes same size diameter?
Best looking obtainable spokes imho are the "cobra centered lace" wheels sold by Dayton.
I want 72 for strength but what percentage over 60 spoke are the stronger? 20% IDK, are spokes same size diameter?
Best looking obtainable spokes imho are the "cobra centered lace" wheels sold by Dayton.
OK, here's my 2 cents. I was told years ago that the process for chroming the spokes sort of crystalizes the steel in the spokes and makes them brittle (this is bad) which is why most of the wheels you will sere may have a chromed rim but SS spokes.
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Dan M.
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Thanks for all the replies!
I ended up changing my order to 60 Spoke after counting the spokes on the wheels in this picture. This is the look I was always going for, so I'm glad I caught my error in time. I'll probably run 72 spokes on the 100 though.
I ended up changing my order to 60 Spoke after counting the spokes on the wheels in this picture. This is the look I was always going for, so I'm glad I caught my error in time. I'll probably run 72 spokes on the 100 though.
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Dam M, the spokes used on modern chrome plated wheels are made of stainless steel because it was found that the plating process caused a condition called "Hydrogen embrittlement". It was suggested that the spokes could be heated in an oven (to a temperature unknown to me and for an unknown length of time) to relieve this. Once the spokes were made of SS this problem was resolved.