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jerryrosa

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Hi All,

I've gone through the past posts about speakers, and am still trying to figure out what I'm going to do. But,..I do want to do it BEFORE we do the interior trim and carpet,..which is about 2-3 weeks off.

Is there a difference between home and car speakers?

I just got hold of 5 of those little Bose Cubes, and they would fit great.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Jerry
 
Jerry -

Theoretically, no real difference. Whatever you put in, just be sure they're well-made and can take the abuse. You'll tend to crank up the volume in a car more so than in a house, and the vibration, dust, and moisture can be murder on them. Also, they'll need to match the impedance output of your radio (8 ohm, 4 ohm, etc.).

Mickey
 
I'd have to see the specs (of which there are few published for the Bose equipment) to compare, but I thought the "cubes" were mostly upper-range sounds designed to be used in conjunction with a subwoofer. There are various speciality speakers for cars too (tweeters, mid-range, subwoofers, etc), but you can shop around and find speakers that give a good full range in one package that fit neatly in the doors. I use Alpine 5.25" speakers in the doors that work out very well.
 
An automobile is a very nasty environment for a loudspeaker. It must operate reliably through repeated cycling of extremes of heat, cold, moisture, vibration and solar radiation. Getting speakers to survive, let alone function well, is quite an exercise in itself.

Survival is the diligent mobile designers first priority. After that, price points must be balanced against performance, with performance usually taking the proverbial backseat. There are some that do a commendable job supplying all three but they don’t come cheap. This is why most mobile products sound dreadful. Also remember, to a large percentage of the mobile market performance simply means being loud regardless of how miserable the sound quality.

A loudspeaker is a rather complex device, magnet structures, cone materials, suspensions, voice coil designs etc. Designers of home or studio speakers generally make performance and price their primary balancing act. Their operating environments are far more benign and there is little reason to waste valuable time and energy (and money) to fortify the design for uncommon duty. In general, loudspeakers designed for the home will not last long in the mobile environment.

One annoying little technical difference is that most loudspeakers for home are designed with an eight Ohm electrical impedance. This is chosen because it works well with most moderately priced home electronics. Mobile speakers, on the other hand, are generally designed for a four Ohm impedance because mobile electronics traditionally have a lower available voltage range. You can run an eight Ohm home speaker from mobile electronics meant for four Ohm operation but with double the impedance (half the load) you only get half the power delivery. (This isn’t quite as bad as it sounds because a well designed eight Ohm speaker can often play louder than common four Ohm speakers even with only half the power.)

There are a very few manufacturers that intend their products to do double duty. They want to sell one product into multiple markets but rather than develop multiple products they make one that offers performance over a broad range. The companies that actually succeed are both technically clever and positioned in the market such that they can charge premium prices.

Bose is certainly clever but I do believe that they address markets directly in order to give the customer the most value. I would think that choosing one of their products that is intentionally environmentally hardened would be a better course of action than trying to use a product they meant for the bookshelf.


PC.
 
aerog- Thank You! My thought was to use the cubes,in conjunction with full-range door speakers. I'd like "rich" sound,..I'm not looking to shake the fillings out of the folks 5 cars behind me (lol), but would like to hear music while on the expressway. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I did box 2, 6x9 speakers , and put them in the area behind the seat,...to test to see if I wanted to mount them into the trunk,..definite "no go",..with the top down to block them,..it's kind of a waste.

I will probably experiment a little further. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Hi PC,

Wow,..thanks for all of that info!
I am going to play with a few different configurations, and see which works best for me.

I've also got 4, 3.5" speakers,..I was toying with the idea of installing into the headrests,...since I got new headrests, I may just try this in the old ones, and see how it works out.

Thanks again,
Jerry
 
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