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Question about painting respirator?

An OSHA inspector would <span style="text-decoration: underline">shut the business down </span>if they found someone painting with that contraption on.

Literally.
 
Don't get your nickers in a twist.

1.the motor is external to the chamber in my case.
2.i use a clean filter for the air
3.it is used a an air blower. heck, you could use a ducted fan like a car heater fan to blow the air.
4.it's outside air, not shop air or compressor-oil contaminated air.
5. it's postive pressure all the time.
6.i live in canda-no OSHA-I use it at home in my 3-car garage.even WCB (canadian equivalent to OSHA) will not be checking on me-ever.but that doesn't matter when i am trying to protect myself.
7. filter cartridges DO NOT take out everything in the air and the air they are filtering is contaminated.
8.All my face is covered-most filter masks only cover nose and mouth leaving eyes and skin exposed.
9. my shop air does not exit any where near the air intake

I think it is one heck of a lot better than just a cartridge mask.
Most everyone works on our cars at home and most use NOTHING. My set up mat not be as good as a $2000 proper fresh air paint spray suit, but it's better than what most people use at home.

It's not for spraying a car, just touch ups. If spraying a car, go to a proper shop with a proper booth and spray suit.

I have mostly used it for sand blasting items that won't fit in my blasting box.
If i have it-I use it. many aerosols should not be breathed- make that ALL. WD40, Brake parts spay cleaner, paint bombs,undercoating,solvent,gasoline,brake dust.
How many of you have used or been exposed to these without any thing? hands up? All i bet.
 
vagt6 said:
An OSHA inspector would <span style="text-decoration: underline">shut the business down </span>if they found someone painting with that contraption on.

An OSHA inspector would cite you for violations for most everything you do and use in your home. From how you change your oil to the condition of your kitchen. You aren't clean enough or safe enough in how you live your life to pass an OSHA inspection. Get a grip and come back down to reality.

The vacuum cleaner that's got you upset is for his own private use. It is not forced upon paid workers. It is a pretty durn good home rigged solution to a problem, and far better than many of the notions tossed out in this thread.
 
vaqt6,

I have a vacumn motor intended for use on a whole house system. This motor was mounted on the exterior of the 8-10 gal. can. Air does not pass through or over the motor.

Could this be safely used as a pressure air source with an air filter on the intake side?
 
Manufacturers of air masks and air filtering devices for spray painting operations must pass extremely rigorous standards that are established by experts and scientists (NIOSH, etc.). Testing and approval of this PPE is very serious business and there are harsh legal penalties for manufacturers who do not comply (especially if someone is hurt).

If we use a self-fabricated air filtering device, it clearly would not pass, nor be subjected to these professional standards. It is untested and completely unproven. As such, it is potentially dangerous.

If the home-made (or unapproved) PPE/device is not effective (and there's absolutely no way to know if it is or not), you risk repiratory disease, disability, or worse.

<span style="font-style: italic">How on earth could it be worth the risk</span>? What do we gain by refusing to purchase the correct PPE? A few lousy bucks? How much do you think pulmonary disease treatment would cost?

Why not purchase the correct equipment, use it as indicated, and be 100 percent safe?

Holy cow . . . :cryin:
 
An yer still gonna die ...
 
I guess thats a NO.
 
The carbon filter masks(40-50$) do fine if you read the directions and keep the unit sealed up between uses.If left on the bench for a few hours,the canisters are toast and MUST be replaced.Dont play about with isocyinate paints,and most are, be safe.In a garage setting the compressor may pick up the VOC's and put it to you in the mask.......
MD(mad dog)
 
I have an older model fresh air system. Can't recall the name right now. I use it religiously for painting and also for any sanding I do that isn't done wet. I know others will tell you that a canister system will work but my own experience syas different. I could still smell the fumes while using a top quality canister. If you can smell it, it isn't safe. these iso paints are nasty beasts and need to be treated with great respect. You think nothing of spending $$$$$$ for compressors, welders, and etc. Spring for the cost of a full mask system, use it and when done sell it and recoup most of your outlay. Don't skimp on your health. Make sure you get plenty of plastic tear offs for the mask. You will have overspray and it doesn't come off easily.

Addendum

Also use a painting suit with hood. Leave no skin exposed. Cyanates can and will enter the system through the pores and any exposed body openings.
 
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