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Plating some parts - Heart attack!
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Maybe you could just ty-rap some aluminum foil over the parts or use aluminum paint.
aeronca65t
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Sand blast and flat-aluminum paint. Seriously. (and wax them well before installation)
tony barnhill
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BAS-IL! Its only $$$'s!
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dave Russell:
Maybe you could just ty-rap some aluminum foil over the parts or use aluminum paint.
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Dave, you must be some kinda dad-gum genious! Thanks for the tip - saved me $500!
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But seriously, I took a sample part (one of my upper A-Arm mount brackets) to the platers for a test plating. I had it plated in electroless nickle and I am very pleased with the result. Not too shiny. Looks like new. Here's side-by-side picture I just took the one on the left is unplated (just been bead blasted). The one on right is plated. Tomorrow I will take them the rest of the parts, includig brake calipers tomorrow.
[ 10-16-2003: Message edited by: Basil ]</p>
Maybe you could just ty-rap some aluminum foil over the parts or use aluminum paint.
Dave, you must be some kinda dad-gum genious! Thanks for the tip - saved me $500!
Before
After
But seriously, I took a sample part (one of my upper A-Arm mount brackets) to the platers for a test plating. I had it plated in electroless nickle and I am very pleased with the result. Not too shiny. Looks like new. Here's side-by-side picture I just took the one on the left is unplated (just been bead blasted). The one on right is plated. Tomorrow I will take them the rest of the parts, includig brake calipers tomorrow.
[ 10-16-2003: Message edited by: Basil ]</p>
tony barnhill
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Waaaaaaaaaay too much free time, Basil!
Constance Martin
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LOL Basil, when do you plan to get this car done?????
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Steve:
Basil....I have a contact for chroming parts.....slightly different process but real chrome plating nonetheless. He says he will give you a deal. Let me know if interested.<hr></blockquote>
Thanks for the offer but that wouold be too far from the original look. They were opriginally plated in Cad and I am having them done it electroless nickle which appears to be a good substitute (not mant places do Cad any more due to environmental issues).
Basil
Basil....I have a contact for chroming parts.....slightly different process but real chrome plating nonetheless. He says he will give you a deal. Let me know if interested.<hr></blockquote>
Thanks for the offer but that wouold be too far from the original look. They were opriginally plated in Cad and I am having them done it electroless nickle which appears to be a good substitute (not mant places do Cad any more due to environmental issues).
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Hi Bas,
Couple of caution notes on plating;
This especially applies to highly stressed parts such as suspensions. It is less important on purely decorative parts.
The process of hydrogen embrittlement (HE) occurs with most plating operations. Hydrogen is deposited in the metal as part of the plating process.
HE removes the ductility from the metal & can cause structural failures of the part without warning if the part is under cyclic stresses, which suspension certainly is.
HE can be prevented by, immediately after plating, placing the parts in a a oven at 375 to 400 F & baking for a period of 100 hours.This difuses the hydrogen molecules out of the metal.
The plating methods which cause the most HE are chrome, cadmium, nickel, & electroless nickel in descending order. Chrome is by far the worst problem & should always be baked. Electroless nickel would be my only choice & you "probably" could get away without baking it. Depends upon how highly stressed the particular designed parts are.
I believe that many if not all racing organizations prohibit plating of critical parts such as suspensions for safety reasons.
D
Couple of caution notes on plating;
This especially applies to highly stressed parts such as suspensions. It is less important on purely decorative parts.
The process of hydrogen embrittlement (HE) occurs with most plating operations. Hydrogen is deposited in the metal as part of the plating process.
HE removes the ductility from the metal & can cause structural failures of the part without warning if the part is under cyclic stresses, which suspension certainly is.
HE can be prevented by, immediately after plating, placing the parts in a a oven at 375 to 400 F & baking for a period of 100 hours.This difuses the hydrogen molecules out of the metal.
The plating methods which cause the most HE are chrome, cadmium, nickel, & electroless nickel in descending order. Chrome is by far the worst problem & should always be baked. Electroless nickel would be my only choice & you "probably" could get away without baking it. Depends upon how highly stressed the particular designed parts are.
I believe that many if not all racing organizations prohibit plating of critical parts such as suspensions for safety reasons.
D
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dave Russell:
Hi Bas,
Couple of caution notes on plating;
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The plating methods which cause the most HE are chrome, cadmium, nickel, & electroless nickel in descending order.<hr></blockquote>
Well, luckily, mine was done in electroless nickle. (I got it back by the way and am generally happy, although there are a couple of small pieces that I want them to re-do.
By the way, Dave, I'm disappointed that you didn't comment on my implementation of your tin foil and tie wrap idea (picture above).
Basil
Hi Bas,
Couple of caution notes on plating;
<snip>
The plating methods which cause the most HE are chrome, cadmium, nickel, & electroless nickel in descending order.<hr></blockquote>
Well, luckily, mine was done in electroless nickle. (I got it back by the way and am generally happy, although there are a couple of small pieces that I want them to re-do.
By the way, Dave, I'm disappointed that you didn't comment on my implementation of your tin foil and tie wrap idea (picture above).
Basil
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Basil:
By the way, Dave, I'm disappointed that you didn't comment on my implementation of your tin foil and tie wrap idea (picture above).
Basil
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I thought you could have done it better than "THAT"
Don't think you tried very hard. Must need more experience using tie wraps?
D
By the way, Dave, I'm disappointed that you didn't comment on my implementation of your tin foil and tie wrap idea (picture above).
Basil
I thought you could have done it better than "THAT"
Don't think you tried very hard. Must need more experience using tie wraps?
D
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Cheap alternative: https://www.eastwoodco.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=10022+Z&I1.x=35&I1.y=48
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dave Russell:
Hi Bas,
Couple of caution notes on plating;
HE can be prevented by, immediately after plating, placing the parts in a a oven at 375 to 400 F & baking for a period of 100 hours.D<hr></blockquote>
I wonder if Mrs Basil will allow this?
Hi Bas,
Couple of caution notes on plating;
HE can be prevented by, immediately after plating, placing the parts in a a oven at 375 to 400 F & baking for a period of 100 hours.D<hr></blockquote>
I wonder if Mrs Basil will allow this?