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Oil Pan prep for GP Oil Separator

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Brosky

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Do Not attempt this project at home. Well, maybe not in your kitchen. See smoke in pictures. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif You will set off a smoke alarm. Ask us how we know!!

Those fittings have to get red hot to do this properly.

Per Tom's instructions of many moons ago, I decided to have the correct fittings installed in the pan, prior to powder coating it and finishing the suspension. Someday if I ever rebuild this engine or decide to add the Good Parts Oil Separator for whatever reason, the pan will be ready on either side for the oil return line.

I'll drop this off to Bob at Cape Cod Powder Coating tomorrow morning and get it back for the weekend all shiny & red.
 
Tom,

I can't drive it while it's on jack stands, so now is the time.

BTW, a local MSC Supply had the fittings for me in two days.
 
That could be used for an oil drainback for when you add the turbocharger! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/driving.gif
 
Here is how Joe A. put a separator in the oil pan in his TR4 race car.
 

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Paul:
Is that a slight distortion I see on the lip of the pan? I hope that if it is distorted, it doesn`t present a leaking problem for you. Silver Solder would have done the job nicely with no distortion at all.
The weld looks nice, i`m sure it will never break.
 
Don Elliott said:
Here is how Joe A. put a separator in the oil pan in his TR4 race car.
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I believe that's more of a baffle, to keep the oil from running away from the pump pickup during hard corners, isn't it ?

The Goodparts oil separator is a separate gizmo that tries to separate oil from the blowby gases escaping from the rocker cover. It needs a drain back to the oil pan (or a catch can) for the separated oil.
https://www.goodparts.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=8

I'm pretty sure Joe's arrangement is something else.
 
Paul,

Notice then the link with Joe's pan has got a bung for an oil temp gauge. Good idea until the GP stuff.
 
Kerry,

You had me a little worried there for a minute. I went out to the car and brought the pan in to lay it flat on my workbench to check it for flatness/distortion before having it stripped and powder coated.

The pan is nice and flat. I think that it's just camera angle, dirt, weld burn marks, whatever, distorting the view somewhat. There is one area along the rail that is ground out or was never shaped correctly along the lip, so maybe that's showing up weird. That has been there since day one, so it will stay.

I have between .010" to .012" gap from one corner to the other at the widest gap on the flat surface to surface. I think that I'll check it after the 400 degree bake just for the heck of it.

During the welding the bulk of the heat was on the cast fitting as apposed to the sheet metal of the pan itself.
 
Don,

Didn't the old Offy Indy engines and dirt track racers perfect these in the 40's and 50's because of the constant turns in one direction?
 
Don Elliott said:
Windage Tray. Keeps the oil down in the pan in extreme racing conditions.
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The windage tray is the flat part on top. The stock TRactor motor pan has one of those, as well. The vertical panel is the baffle (which also acts as reinforcement to the windage tray), which the stock pans don't have.

I'm surprised Joe doesn't have a crank scraper as well. ISTR Kas wrote that they were good for some 'free' hp at high rpm ...
 
Don Elliott said:
I asked Joe all about it. He replied : -

Windage Tray.
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Windage??? But Don, why would there be wind in the sump? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Seriously, is this meant to minimize/prevent agitation and the resulting air bubbles that cause the oil pump to cavitate?
 
angelfj said:
Don Elliott said:
I asked Joe all about it. He replied : -

Windage Tray.
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Windage??? But Don, why would there be wind in the sump? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Seriously, is this meant to minimize/prevent agitation and the resulting air bubbles that cause the oil pump to cavitate?
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The crank rotates several times faster than a window fan.
 
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