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Gentlemen:

After months of inactivity my son and I have finally brought our 1960 BE back to life. We had dismantled it completely in order to be painted. It has taken months to get it reassembled.

Today's issue involve the oil canister. The car has an 1100 engine and no oil cooler. It had the original canister type oil filter. We took it apart in order to change the oil filter. We have never been able to get it back together properly without leaking oil. It did not leak oil (from here) before I initially took it apart, so it did contain the oil.

Here are my questions:

- First: Can someone give me step-by-step directions on how to reassemble this thing? I do have a service parts manual with an exploded view, so I can use that as a guideline.

- Second: I see that Moss sells an oil adapter kit for about $100. Is this kit all I need? I thought I read on the forum that it also requires an oil cooler (if so, that's more money).

Any direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike Pennell
 
Mike:

I would recommend upgrading to a Spin on Filter, unless you plan to show concours (which is unlikely with a 1098). A less expensive route is to find one from a latter engine and bolt it on. Tony (The Autoist)maybe able to help you with one.

Pat
 
Pat:

I'm not looking for concours, just worry free operation. I'll see if Tony has something available.

Mike Pennell
 
I installed the spin on filter kit. Of course, I haven't run the engine yet with it, but it beats the old filter unit for sure.
 
Richard:

From where did you get your kit? And, does it require the car have an oil cooler or anything else?

MXP
 
Miss Agatha 948 er 988 cc has a 1275 spin on.

Hap had one when I was looking.

The heck with orginal for this item.
 
Since no one else has addressed this question, NO, you do not need to install an oil cooler unless you are racing(They are just nice to have as an extra on a street car!!). /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
 
Don't look back, get one and you'll never regret it.
 
All of my Sprites and Midgets have been converted to spin ons. If you are using the canister, pull the whole unit off and do it on the bench. Pay particular attention to the seal groove, as it is very common to find an old seal stuck in the groove. A dental pick or a scribe makes removal of the old seal, or pieces of it, very easy when done on the bench. Completely assemble the unit, and then bolt it back on the engine.
Jeff
 
Gentlemen:

Thanks to everyone for their input. I'll order from from Moss and get it installed.

The only thing that I find so perplexing was the complexity of design on these canister set ups. It just does not appear to be such a leap of genius to invent the screw on type filter/adapter.

I like these British cars mainly for their styling and I often find some of their design issues charmingly quaint. However, some of the things (like this canister) seem so complicated it seems hard to believe they were used. It makes me think of that engineering principle that says the component with the fewest parts presents fewer opportunities for things to go wrong.

MXP
 
And GM used the canister filters well into the sixties. At least our cars <u>had</u> filters on them, poorly designed or not. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
Jeff
 
mxp01 said:
Gentlemen:

Thanks to everyone for their input. I'll order from from Moss and get it installed.

The only thing that I find so perplexing was the complexity of design on these canister set ups. It just does not appear to be such a leap of genius to invent the screw on type filter/adapter.

I like these British cars mainly for their styling and I often find some of their design issues charmingly quaint. However, some of the things (like this canister) seem so complicated it seems hard to believe they were used. It makes me think of that engineering principle that says the component with the fewest parts presents fewer opportunities for things to go wrong.

MXP
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Well yes that is the Kiss principle. However, in defense of the canister its design is quite simple. Additionally, you get to pick the quality of the filter you use and see that it seals correctly. OTOH a spin on filter does not offer you these choices and whats inside that tin can is generally a lot less than is advertised.---Keoke
 
Only problem with the spin on adapter is I can't seem to get a grip on the filter. easier for me is to simply unbolt the thing, unbolt the hoses and take the spin on adapter and filter over to the workbench. Turned out to be easier than trying to grab that filter. Still less messy than dealing with the canister.
 
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