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Now I am confused, Re: Filler.

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Another option is chemical treatment/metal prep.

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I used POR15's Metal Ready on the bare metal before I put on the filler. Does that count?

Paul
 
Evercoat FeatherFill has been my "choice" in the past, Claussen "Sandy" too. I've gone now to Valspar VP-50 for this MG. Likely the Elan will get it as well.

Thanks for the input, spanky. It's kinda funny: we put these new materials to work on these LBC's and have a better looking final result than EVER left England.

They look almost "TOO straight"!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
 
The problem of looking to straight shows up in the concourse shows. I know the 55 Chevy had a ripple on the rear quarter panels and if you are building a "factory" correct car and you take the ripple out the judges count off. But man does the car look better!
 
I am not sure about hte POR15 products. I have heard good and bad. I prefer to stay with stuff I know. In the body shop industry we don't use POR anything.
 
I've stuck with SEM products for that. Same philosophy, basically: "Go with what ya know."
 
Sem is jam-up stuff and works great. I have sprayed there Kandy concentrates in basecoat form and they cover great. There bases are very nice to. Seam sealer, and expandable foam, all good stuff, and the price is not astronomical like some other companies.
 
interesting test ... this will definitely be discussed in detail with my bodyshop. i would add though that the filler over sealer is only as good as the sealer over metal so if the sealer is well bonded to the basemetal, then the results for both tests should be similar.
 
The base metal does need a "profile" on it, it does need to be sanded and cleaned with a wax and grease remover then apply the etch primer of choice. I just finished a tailgate for a Dodge pickup and this is how I did it. I also did a custom show bike a couple years ago that had to have the gas take fixed, the bare metal was treated the same way. I choose to use the Dupont epoxy primer because I can leave it open without problems and is not as deadly as some of the zinc rich primers that don't like to be left open or unpainted for long periods of time.
 
By the way fmichaels, if your shop will not do the work the way you want it done (unless you are completely unreasonable) get you car and go somewhere else. Alot of shops are hacks be careful. Remeber, it's your money and this type work does not come cheap so you want to make sure it is done right. I don't know all the answers so defintely pick the brain of your bodyman to see if he knows what he is doing.
 
i would agree, the shop i will be using comes highly recommended but i will still have that discussion (probably with a little devil's advocate thrown in). never hurts to make sure your concerns are addressed. thanks
 
Great thread.

Tony, I think we found the right guy to do our bodywork and paint when all said and done.
 
Haha.
 
For the next one, let me get this one asembled and running and the wife happy.
 
Jack - you're correct (& I've tried lots of them)...he's more excited about my TD than I am!
 
This thread motivated me to hammer the dents outta a friend's front valence, grind the rusty bits, clean/prep and squirt a coat of etching primer on it. T'morrow I'll try to shoot a coat of epoxy primer on there. He's getting impatient to install the bumper and hang brightwork. He had a shop shoot the car, they closed the doors before the job was done: Car had color but wasn't buffed out, valence was tossed in a corner forgotten... whole experience has him frustrated. I couldn't see him farming out the valence so I'm doin' it.

He don't know it but he owes spanky a beer! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif

...did I mention I HATE panel-beating? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hammer.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
If you have ethch primer on the panel you don't need epoxy over it, go straight to urethane for building purposes. Epoxy does not sand well and if I'm not mistaken, most epoxy recommends you don't sand it. If you panel is straight enough to paint, put sealer on it and paint it.
 
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