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Not the "best car ever made" by a long shot

GTP1960

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But my Dad's favorite vehicle of all time.
'68 International Scout. It was our farm truck.
(my daughter snapped this pic yesterday in Austin & sent it to me)

if I remember correctly you had to get out & rotate the front hubs to put it in 4 wheel drive.

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I would love an International Travelall - 3rd generation 61-68. And likely the pickup too. It is my fantasy restomod.
 

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Picture is a bit fuzzy, but it looks to have Montana plates. Having owned a mid 60's Scout, I can't imagine driving one from here to Texas. I'll bet it got there behind a motorhome.
 
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Picture is a bit fuzzy, but it looks to have Montana plates. Having owned a mid 60's Scout, I can't imagine driving one from here to Texas. I'll bet it got there behind a motorhome.

I asked my daughter to check the tag.
she drives past it daily.

we use to take Dad's to Colorado on hunting trips....pretty rough ride, removable hard top rattled, heater was as effective as a TR3's & the bench seats left a lot to be desired: But she never quit!
 

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Could be registered in Montana to avoid taxes.etc.
It seems to be a common practice for many wealthy exotic car
owner,who could easily afford to register their cars in their own state.
Of course......if you get caught,it's a hefty fine.
 

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Most serious off-roaders still prefer manual hubs -- there's a lot less that can go wrong
 

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Manual hubs are much better than those auto ones. I've owned several Binders and overall they are some of the best vehicles ever built. They are incredibly rugged and durable, and they will pull pretty much anything you tie them to. The Scouts were great little SUVs more comfortable than a Willy's Jeep and more usable than a Bronco, they were pretty much the best of both worlds. When IH originally marketed them they even sold them with PTOs and a wide range of attachments.
 

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I guess I'm not a serious off-roader but I use 4wd every day during winter & early spring. (The road down to our house is 4wd-only at those times.) So, I face snow (no problem), ice (big problem downhill), and mud (the worst) just about daily. My '88 Toyota pickup had manual hubs which were no fun to deal with. My "new" Toyota (2005) has auto hubs. I've never had a problem with them regardless of temperature etc and would not buy a vehicle without them. Maybe desert off-roading is different.

But I'd sure love to be able to turn off the ABS on those trips downhill on ice.
 

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Manual Hubs are always locked when engaged and both wheels will always turn, auto hubs are more convenient but have to usually move an entire rotation to engage, so if you get stuck before engaging you still won't have 4wd. Also auto hubs are more likely to fail than manual hubs, a vacuum line can crack, etc. If you are only using your 4wd the way you described John then the auto hubs will be fine, If you are doing some more serious backs woods kind of stuff you will want not only manual hubs but also a manual transmission and transfer case.
 

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Remembering back when auto hubs first came out, they wouldn't work in reverse, only forward, don't know about them now. When we would run the beaches or sand, we would never lock the front hubs in, only after the rear wheels started loosing traction would we engage them to assist getting out of a bad area. With all fours engaged, you didn't get much warning before you buried it. Best tires for the beaches were ones that had no tread and 15 to 20 lbs of air, old 800/15 Buick tires from a junk yard were perfect, the junk yard guy usually gave them to us just to get rid of them. :highly_amused: Had no money but a lot of fun in those days! :devilgrin: PJ
 

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Paul, I don't know if modern auto hubs lock in reverse or not. I do remember those old ones though, they weren't terribly good by comparison to the manual ones.
 

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I would love an International Travelall - 3rd generation 61-68. And likely the pickup too. It is my fantasy restomod.

I had an International Travel-all and drove it from the East coast to Texas, had it in Texas for a couple years, drove it up to Nebraska where I eventually sold it. Pulled a cargo trailer on every trip. Only problem I had with it was the shift selector bushings, which were rubber with a steel sleeve fell apart. Good old wagon, tough as nails, but rode hard as a buckboard! :thumbsup: PJ
 

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JP, I've probably owned six binders myself and my dad owned well over a dozen, in my opinion you can't go wrong with one.
 
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