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Nobel Peace Prize Candidate Sir Nicholas Winton

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Re: Nobel Peace Prize Candidate Sir Nicholas Winto

Basil, et al,
That's the difference here, we know what is political bs and have control over it. I'm not suggesting we overthrow the government, just yet, but surely a simple plan to undo some of the smaller idiotic things we deal with every day. Even getting some of the homeless fed by going to your local restaurants and delivering their surplus food to the shelters seems to be stalled by inaction and apathy on the part of politicians with not one single justifiable reason. Anyone can drop a check in the mail to their favorite charity but it gets sucked up by the organization running it. That's why I believe one of the most safe things we can do is redistribute waste. Aren't we already recycling unwanted resources by restoring our LBCs and making the world a bit nicer to live in?
 
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equiprx said:
Basil, et al,
That's the difference here, we know what is political bs and have control over it. I'm not suggesting we overthrow the government, just yet, but surely a simple plan to undo some of the smaller idiotic things we deal with every day. Even getting some of the homeless fed by going to your local restaurants and delivering their surplus food to the shelters seems to be stalled by inaction and apathy on the part of politicians with not one single justifiable reason. Anyone can drop a check in the mail to their favorite charity but it gets sucked up by the organization running it. That's why I believe one of the most safe things we can do is redistribute waste. Aren't we already recycling unwanted resources by restoring our LBCs and making the world a bit nicer to live in?
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What makes you think that some of us aren't already doing this. I'll bet there are loads of people on this forum that have been doing what you suggest for years. The charities I give to have a 85% to 90% target rate. The short term missions we support have a 95% target rate. When I give of my time, 100% hits the target. The government will never be affective in helping the true needs of individuals because it is not set up that way.

What I think is absolutely amazing about Sir Winton is that he did what he did and he drew no attention to himself - that is true selflessness and the mark of a true hero.
 
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sideache said:
What I think is absolutely amazing about Sir Winton is that he did what he did and he drew no attention to himself - that is true selflessness and the mark of a true hero.
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Bingo!
 
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I knew there were people on this list that were doing their part and were better and more effective at it that our elected leaders. Please share which of these organizations do the best jobs of making your donations work. But also let's discuss ideas we can implement as individuals for cutting out the waste. If we can agree on something to do individually, then what we all do will have a global effect. I'm not certain that it's always a good idea to be anonymous. Sometimes we need to speak out, take a stand and take the heat.
 
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"Please share which of these organizations do the best jobs of making your donations work. But also let's discuss ideas we can implement as individuals for cutting out the waste. "

For starters, top of my donations list is Doctors Without Borders.

And top of my "do" list is talking with every person I meet and convincing them to actively take part in what goes on in their local schools. I've said it a gazillion times: turning over your child's education to "the school board", and blindly assuming children are learning to be caring, responsible, self-sustaining adults, isn't working. Pay your local taxes, but investigate how they're spent, and how *well* they're spent.

It's a start.

Tom
 
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Tom said:
turning over your child's education to "the school board", and blindly assuming children are learning to be caring, responsible, self-sustaining adults, isn't working. Pay your local taxes, but investigate how they're spent, and how *well* they're spent.
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In spite of the fact we've no kids, it doesn't diminish our participation when it comes to community action. I get to a lot of the meetings and "public hearings" here to listen to (and occasionally bark at) the decision makers and their plans for our money.
 
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The "anonimity" of Sir Wintons' actions only go to illustrate the selfless motivation of his actions without regard to the "elevation of his stature" in the eyes of others. Too often people do good things only to fulfill some need for self-agrandizement rather than to truly accomplish something worthwhile just for the good of it!!
 
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US citizenry are THE most philanthropic group on-planet. This conjures up a statement made repeatedly by me Ol' Fella: "You couldn't voluntarily starve to death in this country. Some well-meaning SOB will come along and SHOVE food down your throat."

Be direct with your giving. We keep ours local. Cliff stated it well.

IMO, the larger the "organization" the less reaching the intended recipient.
 
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DrEntropy said:
"You couldn't voluntarily starve to death in this country. Some well-meaning SOB will come along and SHOVE food down your throat."
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Supporting a charitable organization is something everyone should do. Like Doc, above, I chose a local cause long ago and I've stuck to it for almost thirty years.

Many of us work hard for our money, so it's important to chose an entity that has low overhead expense. The last thing we want is to feed another bureaucracy! My chosen charity is the Epilepsy Foundation of VA whose overhead expense is around 13%, a very low figure among charitable organizations. The EFVA Board has some very smart members who really know the landscape (neurologists; nurses, business owners). I am <u>100%</u> confident that the money I donate will go to an totally worthy cause.

If you don't know which organization to choose, try this formula:

> Find a cause that you're passionate about;
> Study their annual statement for overhead costs, etc.
> Attend a meeting or become involved in a project;
> Get to know a few folks who are active;
> Donate your time or money, or both.

Sadly, I don't donate to the large, "umbrella" organizations any more for the very reason stated here: too much overhead/bureaucracy.

I like to donate and volunteer locally. My money is too hard won to give it to an organization with which I have no personal connection.

Donating locally is kind of like watering your own soil, so to speak. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
 
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Unfortunately, the "Sir Wintons" of the world wouldn't even participate in a discussion such as this...they will quietly continue their good works and keep flying under the radar...and God bless them!
 
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bugimike said:
Unfortunately, the "Sir Wintons" of the world wouldn't even participate in a discussion such as this...they will quietly continue their good works and keep flying under the radar...and God bless them!
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That is exactly right...There are things that many people all over do to help their fellow man, but they don't wear their philanthropy on their sleeve. Too many celebs, for example, get involved with the “cause Du Jour” mostly for the sake of the personal publicity it brings.

Basil
 
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Basil said:
bugimike said:
Unfortunately, the "Sir Wintons" of the world wouldn't even participate in a discussion such as this...they will quietly continue their good works and keep flying under the radar...and God bless them!
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That is exactly right...There are things that many people all over do to help their fellow man, but they don't wear their philanthropy on their sleeve. Too many celebs, for example, get involved with the “cause Du Jour” mostly for the sake of the personal publicity it brings.

Basil
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Yep & Yep
 
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Hats off to Sir Wintons and people like him! Finally! The Nobel Peace Prize goes to a deserving individual. Hasn`t happened in a number of years in my opinion! MUCH better him, than an unnamed very recent recipiant!
 
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Since we seem to be comfortable going on the record for all of this, I will just add that I have been delighted with all of the recent recipients of the prize.

But I was pretty unhappy about one of the guys that got it 14 years ago......
 
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aeronca65t said:
Since we seem to be comfortable going on the record for all of this, I will just add that I have been delighted with all of the recent recipients of the prize.

But I was pretty unhappy about one of the guys that got it 14 years ago......
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I believe that some of them were legit and others, one in particular, were not...that's as far as I will go.
 
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sideache said:
Basil said:
bugimike said:
Unfortunately, the "Sir Wintons" of the world wouldn't even participate in a discussion such as this...they will quietly continue their good works and keep flying under the radar...and God bless them!
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That is exactly right...There are things that many people all over do to help their fellow man, but they don't wear their philanthropy on their sleeve. Too many celebs, for example, get involved with the “cause Du Jour” mostly for the sake of the personal publicity it brings.

Basil
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Yep & Yep
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One organization that consistently gets no press and cares little for it, and is usually on-scene in a disaster before the Red Cross, regardless of race, religion, or even location, is the Humanitarian Fund of the LDS Church. Hundreds of millions of dollars of aid given since it's inception a few years ago. The best part?... 0% overhead, every dollar given is used for charity.

I also recently read that Brad Pitt formed a foundation with at least a million dollars of his own money to help design and build flood resistant, low interest mortgage, housing for victims of Katrina. I may be wrong, but I don't think he's said anything publicly, my hat's off to him.
 
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