Maybe - I guess, I'm one of those really rare guys (this forum is rare enough to have lots of us) that actually still take pride in whatever they are doing. I usually take enough pride in what I am doing, to want to be close to the best at what I am doing... at minimum... I want to be best in my own head. I want to know that I did everything possible in my own human way to finish the job exactly as it should be done. I'm not Anal in that pursuit. But I do take lots of pride in anything that I do. Usually well over the 100% mark. I didn't used to be this way. A long time ago (not that long really), I used to just do what I needed to, to JUST get by. I guess I grew up alot in the past several years. I graduated highschool with a 2.9 GPA, and quit college to get a "get-by" job. I want lots more now (actually, I just want to pay off my mobile home and buy some big hunk-o-land), but that's a lot to someone who grew up pretty poor. After that, I want to build a nice log home that my wife and I can retire in. My mobilehome will be paid off in 4 years. One of the reasons I'm moving careers is that I WILL NOT BUDGE on the payoff date of my current dwelling.... and I could no longer do it with the time-cut-backs at my current job. I'da never even started looking and found the good job awaiting me if they'da done that. I'm starting up a new road, and it looks alot better than the old one that started to no longer even be a road. I'm starting to see the means to my goals. And it feels **** good!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif