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gsalt57tr3
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Year and a half ago I saw a spitfire shell on a Samuri chassis.
kodanja
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The guy has taken the TR7 to a new level.
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Yea about 7' higher ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif
The guy has taken the TR7 to a new level.
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Yea about 7' higher ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif
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billspohn
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So you only like pre-war Triumphs?
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No, but I am not a big fan of the TR-7.
I have owned everything from TR-2 through Swallow Dorreti, TR-3, TR3A, TR-3B, TR-4, TR4A.......I just prefer the pre 1970s cars.
I did have a Triumph Mayflower once that I thought about putting a tuned TR-4 engine into......;-)
So you only like pre-war Triumphs?
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No, but I am not a big fan of the TR-7.
I have owned everything from TR-2 through Swallow Dorreti, TR-3, TR3A, TR-3B, TR-4, TR4A.......I just prefer the pre 1970s cars.
I did have a Triumph Mayflower once that I thought about putting a tuned TR-4 engine into......;-)
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So you only like pre-war Triumphs?
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No, but I am not a big fan of the TR-7.
I have owned everything from TR-2 through Swallow Dorreti, TR-3, TR3A, TR-3B, TR-4, TR4A.......I just prefer the pre 1970s cars.
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No problems with preferences. I used to feel the same way until I drove a TR7. The comfort and same relative power level as earlier TR's keep it right at that inexpensive sports car level. I wanted more power than the TR7 offered and am very happy with my TR8.
However, I also still like my TR6 and all of its 'archaic' design features and when I have the room I wouldn't mind other older TR models gracing my garage. I used to drive my TR6 daily until I hot-rodded it. Now I drive my TR8 daily and love it's comfort and power.
There is a reason that many consider the Wedges 'modern' TR's. Especially now that the wedge body shape is much more common and it doesn't appear so out of place.
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So you only like pre-war Triumphs?
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No, but I am not a big fan of the TR-7.
I have owned everything from TR-2 through Swallow Dorreti, TR-3, TR3A, TR-3B, TR-4, TR4A.......I just prefer the pre 1970s cars.
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No problems with preferences. I used to feel the same way until I drove a TR7. The comfort and same relative power level as earlier TR's keep it right at that inexpensive sports car level. I wanted more power than the TR7 offered and am very happy with my TR8.
However, I also still like my TR6 and all of its 'archaic' design features and when I have the room I wouldn't mind other older TR models gracing my garage. I used to drive my TR6 daily until I hot-rodded it. Now I drive my TR8 daily and love it's comfort and power.
There is a reason that many consider the Wedges 'modern' TR's. Especially now that the wedge body shape is much more common and it doesn't appear so out of place.
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My favorite Triumph is a TR250 but after driving all models from a TR4 on, I still prefer the ride and rumble of my 8 and the looks and style for the TR250. The 7s and 8s are a definate departure of the 6s and earlier but grows on you.
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I frankly do not like the TR7, and I have driven them for awhile. The TR8 is indeed nicer, although with stock engine their performance is relatively modest - something that is very easily remedied of course. Why they specced the lowest output version of that engine instead of the SD1 spec I'll never know. You are in good company though as they also used that version in the MGB GT V8. Maybe something about not competing with Jag in the performance area?
The TR 250 isn't really my cuppa either as it has more weight (and a bit more torque) but no real power boost over the TR-4A. But then I am probably spoiled as I have driven a properly set up TR-5 and it is a night and day difference. As it also is between the poor gutted North American TR-6 and the PI version, but somehow the TR-6 even in carbbed form carries it off better.
The other thing they screwed up badly was the handling on the IRS Triumphs - no excuse for that but at least it was easily fixed. Did the same thing on my MGC (a nice and faster alternative to the TR-6), but that is also fixable pretty easily.
My favorite Triumph is a TR250 but after driving all models from a TR4 on, I still prefer the ride and rumble of my 8 and the looks and style for the TR250. The 7s and 8s are a definate departure of the 6s and earlier but grows on you.
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I frankly do not like the TR7, and I have driven them for awhile. The TR8 is indeed nicer, although with stock engine their performance is relatively modest - something that is very easily remedied of course. Why they specced the lowest output version of that engine instead of the SD1 spec I'll never know. You are in good company though as they also used that version in the MGB GT V8. Maybe something about not competing with Jag in the performance area?
The TR 250 isn't really my cuppa either as it has more weight (and a bit more torque) but no real power boost over the TR-4A. But then I am probably spoiled as I have driven a properly set up TR-5 and it is a night and day difference. As it also is between the poor gutted North American TR-6 and the PI version, but somehow the TR-6 even in carbbed form carries it off better.
The other thing they screwed up badly was the handling on the IRS Triumphs - no excuse for that but at least it was easily fixed. Did the same thing on my MGC (a nice and faster alternative to the TR-6), but that is also fixable pretty easily.
swift6
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There is no doubt that the TR250 and the US TR6 were strangled by the carbs and that the TR5/TR6PI versions were much more powerful. Which is why I 'pumped up' my TR6 to early TR6PI power (maybe a bit more actually /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ). Also true that the TR's IRS could have been better from the factory and yes, that at least, is very easily fixed.
However... MGC's faster than a TR6? Which TR6? The strangled US TR6, well then yes it is on paper. But a 'proper' TR6PI (or of equal spec)? I don't think so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
This isn't sour milk because the MGC was cast out in favor of the TR6 by the BL board is it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
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However... MGC's faster than a TR6? Which TR6? The strangled US TR6, well then yes it is on paper. But a 'proper' TR6PI (or of equal spec)? I don't think so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
This isn't sour milk because the MGC was cast out in favor of the TR6 by the BL board is it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
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However... MGC's faster than a TR6? Which TR6? The strangled US TR6, well then yes it is on paper. But a 'proper' TR6PI (or of equal spec)? I don't think so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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No, the TR-6 PI gave 150 BHP with around 160 ft-lbs of torque pulling about 2500 lbs.
The MGC had the same weight but pulled around by an engine with almost another 500 cc and 10 more ft-lbs. although 5 less BHP.
Properly set up, however (let's give the TR the better rear springs it needs and the MGC the larger sway bar it needs) the MG is a fairly good match. With slight improvements, it is more than a match for the TR and there isn't a lot you can do to improve the TR-6 PI without losing flexibility.
My MGC has c. 175 BHP and will pretty much leave any TR in the dust, and it also handles pretty much on par, although I have a healthy resepct for a race tuned suspension on a TR-6.
However... MGC's faster than a TR6? Which TR6? The strangled US TR6, well then yes it is on paper. But a 'proper' TR6PI (or of equal spec)? I don't think so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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No, the TR-6 PI gave 150 BHP with around 160 ft-lbs of torque pulling about 2500 lbs.
The MGC had the same weight but pulled around by an engine with almost another 500 cc and 10 more ft-lbs. although 5 less BHP.
Properly set up, however (let's give the TR the better rear springs it needs and the MGC the larger sway bar it needs) the MG is a fairly good match. With slight improvements, it is more than a match for the TR and there isn't a lot you can do to improve the TR-6 PI without losing flexibility.
My MGC has c. 175 BHP and will pretty much leave any TR in the dust, and it also handles pretty much on par, although I have a healthy resepct for a race tuned suspension on a TR-6.