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New Carpet for the B
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Not sure about the carpets but there's a thread on here somewhere about Kim's experience redoing her floors, I think she reinsulated also.
I insulated half the floor on my B using the same type material Moss sells (thick padding, silver on one side). It's pretty good material and supplements the padding the carpets usually have. I was interested in insulating the driver's side (did the entire left side plus up to the top of the center console) against exhaust-system heat and there is a noticeable difference between insulated and non-insulated. When I get time I'm going to do the full transmission tunnel and the passenger side.
I insulated half the floor on my B using the same type material Moss sells (thick padding, silver on one side). It's pretty good material and supplements the padding the carpets usually have. I was interested in insulating the driver's side (did the entire left side plus up to the top of the center console) against exhaust-system heat and there is a noticeable difference between insulated and non-insulated. When I get time I'm going to do the full transmission tunnel and the passenger side.
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Having been through a major headache redoing my 71BGT I feel qualified to state an opinion. Stay away from anything that is labled "DELUXE" at all cost! I have a so-call deluxe kit in a box in my shop that I bought and could not live with. The delux kits are flat carpet which will NOT fit the tunnel of rear inner fenders worth a darn. Try making a flat piece of paper match the contours of a longneck beer bottle and you will see what I am talking about. If you car has a console like the later models, some of the wrinkles will be covered up. Seats will cover up some more. If you leave your top down the wrinkles on the inner fenders will not show up so bad, either. Black makes wrinkles less noticeable, too. If you want your carpet to loog, spend a bit more and get the OEM style MOLDED carpet set. You will not regret it. The carpet it better, it has insulation in the form of backing material and is per-shapet to fit like it should. Check out what good carpet looks like here https://community.webshots.com/user/gmasterman
I would not put a Deluxe set in my doghouse after seeing what the OEM style set is!
I would not put a Deluxe set in my doghouse after seeing what the OEM style set is!
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An addendum to my previous post -- I too have the OEM style "molded" carpet set (not flat), I didn't know the others were flat and hadn't really considered that. It has a good amount of insulation on it, but even so the added layer of insulation has made a world of difference, and once it's down as per the instructions, the carpets still lay flat over top without any difficulty.
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Les, I agree with the others. I used the OEM kit from Moss, and was very pleased with the quality. The molded transmission tunnel is a definite MUST. The tunnel piece is molded with stiff felt, and the footwell and battery compartment cover pieces are also very nicely padded. This kit also has molded rear wheel arch pieces, another must.
I insulated everything I could, using the "space age" insulation sold by Moss. (JC Whitney sells the same stuff, cheaper, I found out later.) The insulation (foil side installed TOWARD the heat source) made a tremendous difference in my car, especially on the tranny tunnel, on firewalls, and in footwells. Quieter and much, much cooler in the summer.
I've got pieces of the insulation left over, and plan to put some inside my doors and behind the trunk wall vinyl trim piece (above the battery comparment) when I get to working on the B in early spring. The carpet/insulation project was a lot of fun, and I am very pleased with the results.
I also put down a sound deadener kit from the British Heritage Trust (also sold by Moss.) Kind of pricey, but I've since discovered you can do the job with a superior asphalt-based sound deadener from McMaster-Carr. (You just have to cut the stuff to fit yourself)
To see photos of some of the carpet pieces and the insulation, go to my Ofoto album:
66B interior project photos
(You have to register to view it, but it's free.) If you can navigate from there to my other albums, there's another one showing the interior project results...
Hope that helps!
I insulated everything I could, using the "space age" insulation sold by Moss. (JC Whitney sells the same stuff, cheaper, I found out later.) The insulation (foil side installed TOWARD the heat source) made a tremendous difference in my car, especially on the tranny tunnel, on firewalls, and in footwells. Quieter and much, much cooler in the summer.
I've got pieces of the insulation left over, and plan to put some inside my doors and behind the trunk wall vinyl trim piece (above the battery comparment) when I get to working on the B in early spring. The carpet/insulation project was a lot of fun, and I am very pleased with the results.
I also put down a sound deadener kit from the British Heritage Trust (also sold by Moss.) Kind of pricey, but I've since discovered you can do the job with a superior asphalt-based sound deadener from McMaster-Carr. (You just have to cut the stuff to fit yourself)
To see photos of some of the carpet pieces and the insulation, go to my Ofoto album:
66B interior project photos
(You have to register to view it, but it's free.) If you can navigate from there to my other albums, there's another one showing the interior project results...
Hope that helps!
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I only have the heatshield insulation under the carpets. The sound deadener kit doesn't count, as it fits just into the depressions of the floor pans, and so doesn't add any height.
The insulation itself is only, what, about a quarter-inch thick. No noticeable difference in seat height from that, although I did take the opportunity to replace the seat bottom foams and diaphragms while I had the seats out, and that DID make a huge difference. (I had been bottoming out.)
Fitting the heatshield insulation under the molded transmission tunnel carpeting was a little tricky. I had to modify the stiff backing of that piece, because my 1966 B has a 1975 OD transmission in it, and the shifter is about an inch and a half further back. (Didn't think about that when ordering the carpet!) Anyway, it had a tendency to stick out where the wide part becomes narrow, so I just applied a few screws down near the floor boards to hold it in place .
Also, I forgot to mention it, but I also highly recommend replacing the wooden "packing strips" that go under the seat rails. They were a bad design, as the wood collects moisture and rots, contributing to rusting floorboards and rotten carpet.
I used aluminum strips custom made to exact original specs by GEM Enterprises. They come with new aluminum spacers and stainless steel bolts. He also offers strips made of PVC.
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The insulation itself is only, what, about a quarter-inch thick. No noticeable difference in seat height from that, although I did take the opportunity to replace the seat bottom foams and diaphragms while I had the seats out, and that DID make a huge difference. (I had been bottoming out.)
Fitting the heatshield insulation under the molded transmission tunnel carpeting was a little tricky. I had to modify the stiff backing of that piece, because my 1966 B has a 1975 OD transmission in it, and the shifter is about an inch and a half further back. (Didn't think about that when ordering the carpet!) Anyway, it had a tendency to stick out where the wide part becomes narrow, so I just applied a few screws down near the floor boards to hold it in place .
Also, I forgot to mention it, but I also highly recommend replacing the wooden "packing strips" that go under the seat rails. They were a bad design, as the wood collects moisture and rots, contributing to rusting floorboards and rotten carpet.
I used aluminum strips custom made to exact original specs by GEM Enterprises. They come with new aluminum spacers and stainless steel bolts. He also offers strips made of PVC.
[ 01-31-2003: Message edited by: Kim de B ]</p>
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Kim, thanks for the plug, but I feel that I should make a couple of corrections. My aluminum packing strips are not of original design, but the PVC versions are. Both kits come with new stainless bolts and aluminum spacers to replace the old and often rusted originals. If by some chance you have an unusual bolt patern due to prior floorpan replacements, custom patterns are also availiable.