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sparkydave

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Note to Basil: If you think this is wholly inappropriate, let me know and feel free to delete this.

Got a problem. Perhaps some of you read about it in an earlier thread.

Got a house seller who is unhappy with the house I sold him a year ago. He claims I had water problems I didn't disclose, and he found a repair he thinks I made related to said water problems. He's experiencing water problems (water getting into the air ducts on a slab house), but I had none to my knowledge. The house is over 45 years old. I lived there for 4 years. I didn't make the repairs he found, but is blaming me, and wants money to compensate him for repairing it correctly. My home inspection found no problems, his home inspection found no problems, and no problems were disclosed to me.

This is not the first time he's attempted to solicit more money after closing. The first time, my agent relayed a message from his agent asking about some water coming under the garage door. The garage door seal was lousy, and any home inspector (even him) could have seen that. I didn't declare it because I parked my wet, snow covered car in the garage, which made the floor a whole lot wetter. I said no to his demands, especially because he had a contractor looking at the garage to turn it into a living room. What living room is going to have a garage door? It sure sounded like he just wanted money, he didn't really want to fix the door. All was quiet until a few weeks ago.

The other rub is that he got some mice in fall after closing. He calls the exterminator, and happened to call the exterminator I used once when I had some scratching noises I thought were mice. Exterminator put traps out, but they didn't catch anything. At the time I sold it, I had no mice, and he declined a pest inspection. Mice are not a required disclosure, but he insists I owe him for that too just because I had mice once (or so the exterminator told him).

We talked to a lawyer friend, because we were tired of these requests for money after closing. Bear in mind he already got a repair allowance to fix a couple other problems, and I paid to have another problem fixed. Our lawyer friend suggested offering part of what he's asking, but only on the condition he agrees to drop any further claims, and that our offer is in good faith, not an admission of fault. Our lawyer friend doesn't specialize in real estate, and doesn't carry malpractice insurance, so he couldn't put his name on the letter. He drafted one, we reviewed it, and sent it in my name.

The buyer rejected our offer, still wants the full amount, claims he has an attorney, and supposedly the neighbors (who hadn't been in the house while I lived there) offered their hearsay.

The wife and our lawyer friend think we ought to pay if we want it resolved. The guy says he'll consider it closed if he gets what we wants. Everyone I know says bad idea, including my agent. They think he'll just be encouraged to keep asking for more repair money if he finds more problems, and it might be construed as an admission of fault to support any further claims. I don't know what to think. My agent recommended a real estate attorney, so I hope to talk to him about it. I think I'd rather pay because a judge says so, not because he thinks so, but I'd rather not have to go paying lots of attorney fees either. He's asking less than the small claims limit, but I'd almost prefer going to small claims, spend a small amount of time in court, and have the judge decide. It sounds like if I still say no, he'll likely go that route, but no guarantees he won't try to sue for big bucks and spend days in court.
 
Tell him to take a hike. If you give him a cent he'll take it as an admission of guilt and just keep coming back.

Remember caveat emptor. If he had an inspection done that found no problems, then it's well nigh impossible to prove that this didn't start subsequent to his purchase of the property, unless he can find evidence that you had a contractor to look at the (alleged) issue prior to sale.

Who's to say that some action of his hasn't caused this problem. If he sues, remember to ask for your costs as part of the judgement...

Personally I'd drop a small amount of money on a lawyer and have him refer any claim to said lawyer. That alone might be enough to get him off your back, and if it isn't then you have someone who can deal with the problem appropriately. Find a guy with the reputation of being a shark /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
spark...my opinion...you're done with the guy..unless it was a structural defect that you knowingly covered up he had his shot at inspection time to fix or negotiate...problem is that doesn't stop him from dragging you through the courts and expenses of representation...it's getting that way anymore with everything...I had a similar incident when I sold but most of it was trivial and I declined to handle any of it referring back to their chance to handle at final negotiation...GOOD LUCK..
 
This kind of stuff make my blood boil. I have to agree with your RE agent. This is like blackmail. Once you give in, he's going to keep coming back for more (now you've set a precedent). He's had his inspection(s) and opportunity for inspections and passed on them and lived in the house for a year. I'd accuse him of making these defects himself in order to extort money out of you. It's unlikely he wants to spend money on an attorney either and I'm not sure he has much of a leg to stand on even if he did. Hearsay (as far as I know) is not admissible in court, but then I'm not an attorney either.
 
Tell him you'll give him his money back to just move out of the house so you can burn it!

In other words - tell him its his house now! And, since he said the "L" word, tell him that if he needs to talk with anyone else, have his lawyer talk to your lawyer!

Do blackmailers ever get enough?
 
I think this deal is done. Home inspections done and
the deal has closed. He's bluffing to extort.

Unless he has evidence to introduce, like neighbor
witnesses to testify you did a cover-up, I don't think
he would do well in court. The propery was inspected.
If you give anything by way of negotiating, it could be
construed as a conciousness of guilt.

Sit tight; do not respond to anything short of a
Small Claims action filed against you.

Taking another view: If you think he can show you lied and
covered something up and if the water damage is
substantial, like the foundation is failed and the
house is slipping off, then you would be well advised to
seek a lawyer, but not until he has actually filed against
you. Save your money, time and energy untill then.

Anything said is just talk in the wind untill he files
an action. If it is as you've described, I doubt you have
anything to worry about.

Wishing you all the best,
 
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