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Sorry, but I can't take it. EBay # 2483339729 a nice TR6, but not as advertised. I emailed him asking if he was willing to stake his reputation on that car being as advertised. Because I am willing to stake mine that it isn't. I have what he claims to have. I am on the verge of semi-violence when I get these fools who use EBay as a comparison to mine, and a few other TRs I know of.
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Mark Beiser
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Whats wrong with the car?
KLUTZ
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If this wasn't Ebay you were speaking of, but a different private company, I think you would be in to a question of slander.
Perhaps instead of crapping on this company, and seller, you could go into detail about what YOU find wrong with this beautiful car.
Please enlighten us.
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Perhaps instead of crapping on this company, and seller, you could go into detail about what YOU find wrong with this beautiful car.
Please enlighten us.
Thanks
Paul /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Slander!? If it is provable is it slander? I am not crapping on the car. I said it is a nice car, my fault is with the seller. I am also apparently proving a point, put forth by PT Barnum. I am also disgusted that a premium classic car seller doesnt know, or care to know the full details of a car he represents to be original. I will explain my findings latter,I am just hoping someone else will notice too, and chime in.By the way, apoliges for pi**ing you off.
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Slander!? If it is provable is it slander? I am not crapping on the car. I said it is a nice car, my fault is with the seller. I am also apparently proving a point, put forth by PT Barnum. I am also disgusted that a premium classic car seller doesnt know, or care to know the full details of a car he represents to be original. I will explain my findings latter,I am just hoping someone else will notice too, and chime in.By the way, apoliges for pi**ing you off.
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UH, Please re-read my posting!!!
And the only thing that P's me off is not having cream in the fridge for my morning pot of coffee.
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Slander!? If it is provable is it slander? I am not crapping on the car. I said it is a nice car, my fault is with the seller. I am also apparently proving a point, put forth by PT Barnum. I am also disgusted that a premium classic car seller doesnt know, or care to know the full details of a car he represents to be original. I will explain my findings latter,I am just hoping someone else will notice too, and chime in.By the way, apoliges for pi**ing you off.
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UH, Please re-read my posting!!!
And the only thing that P's me off is not having cream in the fridge for my morning pot of coffee.
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I'm not enough of a TR6 expert to spot any variances from an "original" car, but I somehow don't trust the very flowery description.
For one thing he starts by basically putting down the TR7 and TR8 in almost rude terms (not very classy in my opinion), and then gets very creative in describing the car.
I know this is basically a dealership, and that they are in the business of selling cars. But this place sounds like a cheap used car lot the way they talk about it... Almost reminds of some of the classic car auctions I've observed and how they flog their cars.
For one thing he starts by basically putting down the TR7 and TR8 in almost rude terms (not very classy in my opinion), and then gets very creative in describing the car.
I know this is basically a dealership, and that they are in the business of selling cars. But this place sounds like a cheap used car lot the way they talk about it... Almost reminds of some of the classic car auctions I've observed and how they flog their cars.
Paul Johnson
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Klutz is correct. If you find the seller to be less than honest, then either tell us specifically what the problem is so we can make a judgement, or leave us alone. This is like listening to union and management officals each trolling for public support without revealing a single detail.
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I know it's BS that the car is all original. That is so rare today that I've only seen 1 almost all origanl TR6, and that was just on the internet and they had pictures of absolutely everything, and it passed my visual inspection. However, I don't see what you're so upset about. People BS a little on eBay all the time. I wouldn't call him a Con artist or anything. He's just trying to sell a car.
That said, I don't trust eBay and probably wouldn't buy anything off of it except for something I could go check out in person before I payed. It's just to easy to steal someone's money otherwise.
That said, I don't trust eBay and probably wouldn't buy anything off of it except for something I could go check out in person before I payed. It's just to easy to steal someone's money otherwise.
Geo Hahn
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Original cars do exist even among models older than TR6s.
I do not know TR6s so I can't comment on the specific eBay example other than to say it looks very good to me.
I got my 64 TR4 off of eBay and it was original except for the right rear fender being resprayed. It was not pristine but by only replacing those things that do tend to look tacky with use (e.g. carpet) and accepting a patina of age in many other areas you can preserve a good example of what these cars can look like in an unrestored state.
As for the eBay TR6: Still haven't heard any fault or non-original aspect mentioned (other than that cited by the seller). Surprisingly, the reserve seemed reasonable -- I expect the late bidding to take it quite a bit higher.
I do not know TR6s so I can't comment on the specific eBay example other than to say it looks very good to me.
I got my 64 TR4 off of eBay and it was original except for the right rear fender being resprayed. It was not pristine but by only replacing those things that do tend to look tacky with use (e.g. carpet) and accepting a patina of age in many other areas you can preserve a good example of what these cars can look like in an unrestored state.
As for the eBay TR6: Still haven't heard any fault or non-original aspect mentioned (other than that cited by the seller). Surprisingly, the reserve seemed reasonable -- I expect the late bidding to take it quite a bit higher.
SilentUnicorn
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Gee, I dont think that battery is original...
Feed back is good on this gent
Sure is Puurrrteeee Car!
mark
Feed back is good on this gent
Sure is Puurrrteeee Car!
mark
Well, I was hoping others would notice, I have a list and some questions and explaintions, but way to much to type right now. Who would be able to verify my observations? Yes it is a very nice car. Let me offer this tho, how many TR6s left the factory with thier stainless rocker mouldings installed upside down?
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I would not have known that, but then I am not very conversant with the details on a TR6. I do know enough about cars in general though, to be able to point out that for a vehicle that is supposed to be so original, those carpets and seats withstood the 91,000 miles very well, as did those original wheels! It does look pretty, but I would seriously doubt the originality of it. The engine compartment has certainly not seen that many miles and staed the way it is now. Under the wheelarches the finish is fresh, (better than my car with an original 26,000 miles) and the peek at the front suspension I was able to get shows new parts too. I would suggest that this is a nicely-restored car at best, but not original.
My list and comments in no particular order. By the way, this is only pertinent to a car claiming to be "virginally correct". Coil not Lucas, spark plug wires not green, hoses and alternator look too new very questionable.Entire engine comp. too shiny for originality? Brake booster should have the #2 in a square box stamped in white on top. Exhaust, original exh had slant cut tips with resonators inside. Trim rings are stainless steel, originals were polished aluminum. Fur flex around door openings should be tan, not black.Boot cover and tonneau cover, snaps on these were black plastic,no tonneau was factory tan. Sunvisors too new, do not correspond with sagging foam in seats. Sunvisor foam always deteriorates before other interior foam. Faded black paint on windshield between window rubber and body rubber. When that strip fades usually the edges of the windshield frame fade also. Most repainters forget that strip.As mentioned rocker moldings who and why would anybody replace these, except for the most likely reason of repainting. And if they were replaced for no other reason than wanting new, just one less piece of originality. Stupid glove box grab handle.Next item has nothing to do with originality, but worth mentioning in view of his saying no dings or dents to lose sleep over. Notice how all pics are enlargeable, except the very rear view. Now notice the view of him turning onto a side street. He goofed up here.Enlarge the pic. Two very noticable DENTS.A credibility factor. Chrome trim screws in trunk panel boards factories were black.Overall paint on the car too shiny, looks like base/clear coat.Even shiny in areas where it would be very hard to get a power buffer. These items I can't prove. I am just supicious,having painted for 25 plus yrs.Where the kick panel carpet and the side rail carpet meet at the door opening, poorly fitting with gaps.Triump build quality wasn't the best, but it was better than that.These are pretty harsh statements, and I can't be proven correct, but I live, eat and sleep Triumphs, and I will stand by my observations.This was only important to me in the interest of HONESTY.If I am wrong, I will take my comeupance.
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I'm not enough of a TR6 expert to spot any variances from an "original" car, but I somehow don't trust the very flowery description. For one thing he starts by basically putting down the TR7 and TR8 in almost rude terms (not very classy in my opinion), and then gets very creative in describing the car. I know this is basically a dealership, and that they are in the business of selling cars. But this place sounds like a cheap used car lot the way they talk about it... Almost reminds of some of the classic car auctions I've observed and how they flog their cars.
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As a longtime eBay watcher and user (have bought several cars, and sold several cars, on eBay), and also because I have corresponded with the guys who were selling that TR6 on more than one occasion and feel that I know something about them, I can't resist commenting.
I'm not a TR6 expert, although I did used to own one and in fact will be driving one that belongs to a friend in a rally this evening, but I can tell you that their description of an Austin-Healey that they offered a few years ago was exceptionally accurate and well-written; these guys really do their homework. They also take nice clear photos -- many of them -- and they are up-front about faults and shortcomings of the cars they offer. These are, in my long eBay experience, some of the REAL GOOD guys out there finding and offering very nice cars.
Second, the comment, "the forgettable TR7/8, has never really achieved collectible status" is, in my opinion, fully defensible and completely accurate, and hardly qualifies as being in "almost rude terms." Sounds more like an accurate, dispassionately stated fact to me.
I'm not enough of a TR6 expert to spot any variances from an "original" car, but I somehow don't trust the very flowery description. For one thing he starts by basically putting down the TR7 and TR8 in almost rude terms (not very classy in my opinion), and then gets very creative in describing the car. I know this is basically a dealership, and that they are in the business of selling cars. But this place sounds like a cheap used car lot the way they talk about it... Almost reminds of some of the classic car auctions I've observed and how they flog their cars.
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As a longtime eBay watcher and user (have bought several cars, and sold several cars, on eBay), and also because I have corresponded with the guys who were selling that TR6 on more than one occasion and feel that I know something about them, I can't resist commenting.
I'm not a TR6 expert, although I did used to own one and in fact will be driving one that belongs to a friend in a rally this evening, but I can tell you that their description of an Austin-Healey that they offered a few years ago was exceptionally accurate and well-written; these guys really do their homework. They also take nice clear photos -- many of them -- and they are up-front about faults and shortcomings of the cars they offer. These are, in my long eBay experience, some of the REAL GOOD guys out there finding and offering very nice cars.
Second, the comment, "the forgettable TR7/8, has never really achieved collectible status" is, in my opinion, fully defensible and completely accurate, and hardly qualifies as being in "almost rude terms." Sounds more like an accurate, dispassionately stated fact to me.