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Don, the VTO product is definately coming out lighter than the Superlite or Minitor type product, for exmaple the Superlite 15x6 weighed 17.8 our VTO 15x6 weighs 13.7, I have no reason to expect the Retro 4 will not come in at simular weights, maybe lighter, since they have less material in the center design. On of my big issues with the new VTO wheels was light enough weight, that the street crowd got race weight wheels and the racers got light wheel for street prices, so far I very impressed with what is coming out.