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From TR club e-news

BREAKING NEWS:
LENO'S LAW STALLS. WILL NOT ADVANCE TO FINAL VOTE IN 2025.

SEMA Statement Below

“We’re disappointed that Leno’s Law (SB 712) was held in committee, but proud of the momentum it created. This was the most progress on smog check reform in over 20 years. Thanks to the passion of enthusiasts, builders, and small businesses, lawmakers seriously considered expanding California’s exemption for the first time since 2004. The bill wasn’t perfect, but it was a meaningful step forward. We’re grateful to Senator Shannon Grove, Senator Dave Cortese, and Jay Leno for their leadership. We’ll be back to finish what we started.”
 
This is only California, right?
 
Sad news but not a big surprise for California.
 
tr6nitjulius said:
From TR club e-news

BREAKING NEWS:
LENO'S LAW STALLS. WILL NOT ADVANCE TO FINAL VOTE IN 2025.

SEMA Statement Below

“We’re disappointed that Leno’s Law (SB 712) was held in committee, but proud of the momentum it created. This was the most progress on smog check reform in over 20 years. Thanks to the passion of enthusiasts, builders, and small businesses, lawmakers seriously considered expanding California’s exemption for the first time since 2004. The bill wasn’t perfect, but it was a meaningful step forward. We’re grateful to Senator Shannon Grove, Senator Dave Cortese, and Jay Leno for their leadership. We’ll be back to finish what we started.”
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Don't worry, soon Trump will throw out all SMOG laws.
 
The bill got further along than expected. Baby steps…
 
Just like any hot button issue there are both +&-.
 
waltesefalcon said:
What are the negatives for a law like this?
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I'm just spitballing here but what the environmentalist are saying that it will increase pollution.
The experts that disagree say the cars involved are few in number and use, so not a big factor.
I believe this to be true so I'm in favor of it, BUT.
Do I think that there will be individuals that would game the system?
You bet they would, but will it still really make a difference??? Anything is possible.
I'm expecting Trump will eviscerate the SMOG rules as much as the courts will allow.
My personal situation is I have a 2005 vehicle and I buy a SMOG certificate every two years.
I can no longer work on my cars so if something breaks I have to buy another car.
A few months ago I was lusting after a neighbors VW square back.
He sold it before I had a chance to make an offer, but I bet I couldn't afford it.
I would have had to treat it like a driver and let the rust take it back to the earth.
That's a shame because I wish I could afford to bring it back to more, but again I don't even have any garage space.
 
waltesefalcon said:
What are the negatives for a law like this?
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I have not been following this one super closely but one thing that stood out to me as a negative was the fact that in order to qualify for the exemption you had to have a specific type of insurance on the vehicle - which in and of itself does not sound unreasonable.

But, to qualify for that type of policy, you have to be able to keep the vehicle in a locked, fully enclosed structure. That could mean spending tens of thousands of dollars to build one if you (like me) don't have the luxury of an indoor storage space where you live - and if you live in an apartment/condo environment where you can't build anything, it may not be possible at all to comply.
 
Most, if not all, of those provisions that were added later were just impediments that were imposed to water down the law. They were never intended to make sense, they were just added by politicians that were opposed to the law in the first place.
 
YakkoWarner said:
I have not been following this one super closely but one thing that stood out to me as a negative was the fact that in order to qualify for the exemption you had to have a specific type of insurance on the vehicle - which in and of itself does not sound unreasonable.

But, to qualify for that type of policy, you have to be able to keep the vehicle in a locked, fully enclosed structure. That could mean spending tens of thousands of dollars to build one if you (like me) don't have the luxury of an indoor storage space where you live - and if you live in an apartment/condo environment where you can't build anything, it may not be possible at all to comply.
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I heard comments from others that it was also a requirement to have special 'vintage vehicle' plates.
Things like that are imposed to make it more painful than getting your car SMOGged.
If you are wealthy enough to own a vintage car you won't mind paying for it.
My next door neighbor works for the power company and they get paid extremely well.
The company provides him with a truck which is actually a lease with 'out of state' registration.
He has had it for at least five years and is never required to renew the registration or get it SMOGged.
The company also pays for ALL maintenance, insurance and everything else we have to pay for.
It doesn't even have the embarrassment of the power company logo on it.
 
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