• Hey Guest!
    British Car Forum has been supporting enthusiasts for over 25 years by providing a great place to share our love for British cars. You can support our efforts by upgrading your membership for less than the dues of most car clubs. There are some perks with a member upgrade!

    **Upgrade Now**
    (PS: Upgraded members don't see this banner, nor will you see the Google ads that appear on the site.)
Tips
Tips

It's arrived at last!

NickMorgan

Jedi Knight
Offline
Having decided to buy the Triumph 1300TC in September and then paying for it in October it finally arrived here yesterday. The transportation company were told that there was no hurry as that kept the cost down. Unfortunately the day before it arrived the weather took a turn for the worst and the car is now covered in salt. Anyway it is a restoration project, so it is not the end of the world. There is plenty of welding ahead of me.
2006046.jpg

Now I need to give it a good clean and take it round to the barn with the other Triumphs.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Cool car. What makes it go?

[/ QUOTE ]

Petrol /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif

Mickey
 
Very nice. If I came across one here I would be very tempted to buy it. They were very popular here in Israel in the early '70s. In fact more popular (in terms of % on the street) than in the UK. There were also assembled here from knocked down kits, mostly with 1500cc engines.
Yisrael
 
Very nice, parked outside the pub eh!
You wettin' it's head or what?
 
Bill,
It has the 1300 Spitfire MkIII engine with the twin SUs, but it drives the front wheels. I really only bought it out of intrigue so that I could have a good look at how it is all put together and play around with it (but then I suppose that is why we all buy our Triumphs!). The gearbox is directly behind and below the engine and the diff is below at the front. The ring gear for the starter is at the front of the engine. It has interesting features inside such as fold-away window winders! It needs quite a bit of work for the MOT. A couple of bits of welding underneath and the rear brakes freeing up. After a good wash I haven't found anything too bad. I love it!!
2006246.jpg
 
... and I should have said there are thought to be fewer than 30 of the twin carb models left in existence!
 
Nick,

Ok, since you posted the pic of the motor and I have never ever seen one of these beauties before you have me wondering. Are you saying the engine is mounted sideways in the engine compartment or did they installed some type of reversed inboard outboard boat motor gear drive to operate this friont wheel drive concept? It must be quite the bit of engineering if I'm imagining the reversed drive correctly?
 
Harry,
The engine is mounted front to back. You can see the radiator in the picture above - it is at the front of the engine. Hopefully the picture below from the workshop manual will help, but I am not sure how well it will come out.
scan0002.jpg

Nick
 
Looks like the tranny shares the same oil as the engine.

Hmmmm, do I smell the possibilities of an AWD Spitfire.
 
The Triumph 1300TC is a wonderful little car, congratulations! My father had one new in 1968 WDH 296 G was the reg......I learned to drive in that car.

I have always had a yearning for one, ever since.

You are a lucky man, I hope the car serves you well!
 
Thanks Nick,

It's good to know my imagination still works OK. That is simply with out question the most interesting(crazy) concept of front wheel drive I've ever seen. It does look like the out drive to a boat I use to own. Thanks so much for the illustration I'm going to save this one. Every time I pull a gear box and start having problems I'm going to look at this and say you could be rebuilding this baby.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
 
Ah, but the next time you are changing your clutch you should be wishing that you had a fwd Triumph. Then you wouldn't have to pull the gearbox or engine, just access it through the cover-plate from inside the car!!!

BTY The engine and transmission each use a separate oil supply.
PS It is entirely coincidental that the car was delivered to that parking spot outside the pub! It was as close as the lorry could get to my house. That's my story and I am sticking to it!
 
They are really nice little cars, surprisingly roomy, and with our dimishing supply of oil, more and more relevant.

I remember in the 1960's they were well thought of as a more luxurious and "classy" alternative to what was called over here the Austin America. Nice bits of wood trim on the dash, comfortable seats and a decent "boot".
Simon.
 
[ QUOTE ]


Hmmmm, do I smell the possibilities of an AWD Spitfire.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not sure about an AWD Spit, the engine would sit a bit high for that, However, there was (IS) a 4wd version of that transmission built by Triumph. It was originally built for a 4wd utillity vehicle assembled in Israel and Iran (history is very strange sometimes!)

Now for Triumph history the 1300 FWD started out as a FWD vehicle, but it was kind of expensive so Triumph in a bit of unussual engineering developed a cheaper REAR wheel drive version based on the same basic body.

The next logical step was to take the 4wd trans and put it back into a RWD car and AWD. Now since this is a good idea someone did it and made a neat rally car.

Canley Classics was trying to sell one of those 4WD transmissions a while back. Wonder what happened to it.

See this for more of the history
https://www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?awisraelf.htm
 

Attachments

  • 291483-awisrael_15.jpg
    291483-awisrael_15.jpg
    21.1 KB · Views: 101
Back
Top