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If the voting is like other magazines it could have been only a handful of people. One dive magazine each year lists the world's greatest destinations etc. I was shocked to find that it takes only 25 votes to make a list.

Bruce
 
Well if you got Practical Classics June 04 issue of Top 100 as picked by their readers you'd possibly be happier.........While #1 made me hurl...A Morris Minor....2 Triumphs made the Top 10 #6 the Stag and #10 the TR7.......Also #11 was the 2000/2500....#15 was the Spitfire and #16 the Dolomite.......Whereas the Mustang finished #78
My Rovers came in at #7 RoverP6...#8 a P4 #13 a P5 and #20 the SD1..............Biggest surprise to me was the VW Beetle finishing only 21
 
I get CM, and have that copy of the mag. The MG B as first didn't surprise me much. I have to say I would've like to see the TR4/250/6 higher up in the list, and think it deserves to be, but then, I'm biased so my opinion doesn't count much.

Everyone look for the next issue of Classic Motorsports! A car of a man who rents LBCs in my area named John Pollock will be in it. It's a Triumph Spitfire, and was restored at the shop I work at.
 
Speaking of the TR6 being listed as a lemon in it's time, I vividly remember an Army buddy anxiously awaiting the arrival of his new 69 TR6 (in 1970) to replace his thoroughly worn out TR4. He drove the white beauty home to the base at Ft. Polk, parked it proudly for us all to admire (I had a 454 Vette and a TR3 at the time) and promptly broke the bonnet release cable when he tried to show us the gleaming new six cylinder engine. I've never heard so much profanity in my life, even when he got sent over to Viet-f*****g-Nam. I got to babysit his Triumph during his tour-of-duty. War stories.

Bill
 
Bye the way, I volunteered for Vietnam. If you did that while stationed at Fort Polk, this was a guarantee that you would never go over.
 
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Of course if I could get my hands on a genuine 5spd/FHC TR8 that would be perfect.

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A genuine, nice-looking red TR8 FHC sold on eBay last month for US$2000 and there was only one bidder. I posted it to this forum, but apparently no one was interested then.

Considering that only 150 FHC TR8s were built, the price seemed a little low. But I guess that is another indication of the "high regard" that these cars still hold for the general American public, at least among those who know what one is (which seems to be fewer people every year, even among "car guys", as I realize every time I take my TR8 to local cruise nights).

Personally I love driving my TR8 and the AC is really nice for long trips with my wife (don't knock it if you have never taken your wife for a long summer drive in an MGA). Now I just need to get a 140 MPH speedo, instead of the 85 MPH one (see a related Triumph thread), so I can really "enjoy" it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif

By the way, anyone know whether the MGA was on that "best list"?
 
If had any amount of disposable cash I would have bid on that eBay one. Cruelly there have been a few TR8s going to very reasonable pricey locally lately. Too bad my wife has already spent all my money (and my for next year too). I'll get there eventually.
 
I freely admit to having no experiance with TR8s, so I will abstain from saying anything about them. I have delt with a few different TR7s, and I can honestly say I have never driven a good one. They are the worst car to wear the Triumph badge that I have ever delt with. I have been many Spitfires, a few TR3s, 4s, a 250, and a 6, all of them were superior cars to the TR7. I gave the 7 three chances, and I am as unimpressed with the car now as I was when I first laid eyes on the horrible styling.
 
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When the TR7 first came out, it didn't do anything for me, either. But I do remember their ad campaign, "The shape of things to come"... That did seem to be on target, as far as car design that followed it.

Mickey
 
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A genuine, nice-looking red TR8 FHC sold on eBay last month for US$2000 and there was only one bidder. I posted it to this forum, but apparently no one was interested then.

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Hi all, new guy here. I saw that car and tried to convince my wife to let me bid on it (she holds the checkbook these days), no dice or I would have fought hard to win that auction.

Oh god, please don't bash American "sports" cars, especially the Mustang. I've just come over to LBC's in the last few years from a lifetime involvement with 60's/70's era American cars (3 vintage stangs to date). I agree though, I wouldn't call the Mustang a sports car either, it's a "sports coupe" or a GT car. However, the proper term would be "pony car".
 
I've always wondered if the TR7 would have been more accepted if another manufacturer had built it. If Toyota had built then there likely wouldn't be any outrage. I mean is most of the issue because it looks and drives different than a Spitfire or classic TR series car? Because most of the comtemporary reviews seem favorable (execpt for the 4spd box it started with).

Its like the Rover SD1 - if someone else had built it (with better quality control) it would be a sure fire classic. Leave it up to BL to snatch defeat from the claws of victory /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Oh god, please don't bash American "sports" cars, especially the Mustang. I've just come over to LBC's in the last few years from a lifetime involvement with 60's/70's era American cars (3 vintage stangs to date). I agree though, I wouldn't call the Mustang a sports car either, it's a "sports coupe" or a GT car. However, the proper term would be "pony car".

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I have owned two classic Mustangs--a '65 "sports coupe" for 31 years (sold it in 2000) and a '66 convertible for the past 18 years. Both were/are 289 automatics and the coupe had air conditioning and a white Pony interior. Next year, I am planning to "restomod" the convertible with a modern crate motor, brakes, and suspension. So, welcome to the forum--you won't get any Mustang-bashing from me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
 
Excellent Steve, that sounds like a great plan. I had three of them and still haven't gotten the chance to build the one I want. My plan for the future, once my TR6 is done or I'm divorced, whichever comes first, is for a 67 or 68 coupe with a 351 Cleveland, 4 speed, GT/CS clone body kit, and a road course spec suspension. Still looking for a rust free plain jane coupe V8 donor car shell though.
 
I'm not bashing Mustangs, but they weren't designed to be sports cars in the European mode. They were meant to be a different kind of family car, one that could be entertaining and exciting to drive. The enormous range of options appealed to milquetoasts as well as Hells Angels and everyone in between.

You're right. As pony cars, they're the goods. As sports cars, no dice - except on the rear view mirror.

Jeff
 
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...please don't bash American "sports" cars, especially the Mustang...

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Our local British car club has a long standing 'feud' with the Mustang club (began at a car show when an errant champagne cork landed on the hood of a Mustang). Escalated over the years into 'combat' and one POW taken.

https://tbcr.net/mambo/index.php?option=displaypage&Itemid=81&op=file&SubMenu=

Whatever you call the Mustang -- their owners seem to know how to enjoy the hobby and that's good enough for me.
 
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Geo, that whole page, and indeed that whole event embodies eveything that our hobby i supposed to be about. That is classic.
 
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