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I need to lose a substancial amount of weight(over 50#) and I want to get an Ipod or MP3 or ??? to exercise with. I do not know anything about them. I have between 300 and 400 CDs and I want something that will let me down load my music with ease. I need help from someone that is knowledgeable. Any hints or tips? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif
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1965_MGB
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I have a couple of ipods, and I like them very much. If you are going to rip your CDs to go into the ipod, make sure you get one with the capacity to hold all the songs.
Personally I like my 60GB video ipod. It has space for over 3000 songs, along with a couple of TV shows that I got off the internet.
One downside to the video ipod is the size and weight. It is much heaver than the ipod Nano.
No matter which device you go for, I would invest in a set of earbuds that fit inside the ear. They sound much better, and don't fall out like the standard ones do.
Another thing to consider is a case for the device. They can be sensitive to bumps, drops and moisture. I have a Nano that is dead since it got a little wet.
For my ipod I got a case from https://www.ifrogz.com. They have different designs of case that you can customize any way you like. They come with a protector for the screen and click wheel that will help keep crud and water out of the works.
All this is just my subjective opinion though.
Personally I like my 60GB video ipod. It has space for over 3000 songs, along with a couple of TV shows that I got off the internet.
One downside to the video ipod is the size and weight. It is much heaver than the ipod Nano.
No matter which device you go for, I would invest in a set of earbuds that fit inside the ear. They sound much better, and don't fall out like the standard ones do.
Another thing to consider is a case for the device. They can be sensitive to bumps, drops and moisture. I have a Nano that is dead since it got a little wet.
For my ipod I got a case from https://www.ifrogz.com. They have different designs of case that you can customize any way you like. They come with a protector for the screen and click wheel that will help keep crud and water out of the works.
All this is just my subjective opinion though.
GregW
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I have had a Creative Zen for about a year now with no complaints. It has 8 gig of storage, I’m nowhere near filling it up. Mine has a 96dB signal to noise ratio (read excellent), Apple doesn’t list their specs at all, but hey, it’s from Apple. I’ve mentioned in the past that I’m no fan of iTunes either. If you’re in the market for a new cell phone, many of the new ones have media players built in. The phone I have has 2 gig of storage, so you could get a decent selection of songs on it. I don’t think the battery life would be as good as a dedicated player, but you only have to carry one device with you then. I can’t comment on the quality of the music though, I just use mine as a phone.
P.S. I read that iTunes has the slowest encoder around, something like four times slower than the best program. Take this with a grain of salt unless I find the article.
P.S. I read that iTunes has the slowest encoder around, something like four times slower than the best program. Take this with a grain of salt unless I find the article.
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LLAngus:
There are a bunch of free programs you can D/L off of the net to rip cd`s to .Mp3
One thing you need to know is bit rate = quality of music, however high bit rates mean larger file sizes also. {less music per drive space.} A 128 bit rate is a good place to start when ripping to .mp3. 256 bit rate is a little better quality but as stated, larger file size.
The divice {Player} {in my opinion} is ones personal prefrence}. There are many many types, brands and storage capability players on the market. I suggest research before you commit to purchase. The things to look at are, first storage capability then physical size of the device then price. Some devices {Players} are capable of doing many different functions. For instance I have one that will not only play .mp3`s but it will also take pics, videos, record voice, or serv as a webcam. And it is small enough to fit in your shirt pocket. The storage space is S.D. cards {about half the legnth of a stick of gum} Need more space? Just purchase another card. Again ... this particular player was MY personal choice because of it`s functionality. Some players are battery intensive {Mine is} In that case you will need spare batteries on your person while using it.
{it will run almost 8 hrs on one set of AA playing .mp3`s but not doing video}.
Take your time, look around, shop, compare, see what style suits you, physical size, storage capability, Functionality and price wise. As for ripping the music, Most devices will come with an instalation cd that will include a ripping program. If you happen to need further assistance with ripping or .mp3 terminology if you care to either email me or P.M me I can most likely help you out.
I have over ten years experiance playing, editing, ripping, .mp3 files.
If it can be done to an .mp3 I`v probably done it, if not, I probably will eventualy.
Kerry
There are a bunch of free programs you can D/L off of the net to rip cd`s to .Mp3
One thing you need to know is bit rate = quality of music, however high bit rates mean larger file sizes also. {less music per drive space.} A 128 bit rate is a good place to start when ripping to .mp3. 256 bit rate is a little better quality but as stated, larger file size.
The divice {Player} {in my opinion} is ones personal prefrence}. There are many many types, brands and storage capability players on the market. I suggest research before you commit to purchase. The things to look at are, first storage capability then physical size of the device then price. Some devices {Players} are capable of doing many different functions. For instance I have one that will not only play .mp3`s but it will also take pics, videos, record voice, or serv as a webcam. And it is small enough to fit in your shirt pocket. The storage space is S.D. cards {about half the legnth of a stick of gum} Need more space? Just purchase another card. Again ... this particular player was MY personal choice because of it`s functionality. Some players are battery intensive {Mine is} In that case you will need spare batteries on your person while using it.
{it will run almost 8 hrs on one set of AA playing .mp3`s but not doing video}.
Take your time, look around, shop, compare, see what style suits you, physical size, storage capability, Functionality and price wise. As for ripping the music, Most devices will come with an instalation cd that will include a ripping program. If you happen to need further assistance with ripping or .mp3 terminology if you care to either email me or P.M me I can most likely help you out.
I have over ten years experiance playing, editing, ripping, .mp3 files.
If it can be done to an .mp3 I`v probably done it, if not, I probably will eventualy.
Kerry
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I would use Microsoft media player for ripping, just because you already have it and it is easy.
I also wouldn't necessarily go with an Apple iPod, but instead an X brand MP3 player, purely because of the price/quality ratio.
350 CDs equates to roughly 260 hours (nearly 11 days non stop) of music, so you'll automatically be looking in the 30 gig range if you want to dump all of them.
Ripping CDs to your PC and then Synching them to a device pretty easy, I'd be ahppy to help.
One more thing, with that many songs, I'd consider maybe having either an external hard drive or a secondary hard drive, just in case of disaster.
I also wouldn't necessarily go with an Apple iPod, but instead an X brand MP3 player, purely because of the price/quality ratio.
350 CDs equates to roughly 260 hours (nearly 11 days non stop) of music, so you'll automatically be looking in the 30 gig range if you want to dump all of them.
Ripping CDs to your PC and then Synching them to a device pretty easy, I'd be ahppy to help.
One more thing, with that many songs, I'd consider maybe having either an external hard drive or a secondary hard drive, just in case of disaster.
AweMan
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Baz said:
Excellent advice!
If you plan to keep your .mp3 collection on your P.C. .
I actually have my extensive .mp3 collection on a seperate drive that I only plug into the P.C. when I intend to retrieve music from it for one of my players {I have 3, one protable {Mentioned above} and one in my truck {cd player type} and one in my M.H. {also cd type}. Depending on the file sizes you can get from 200 to 250 .mp3`s on one 680 M.B. cdr. This equals hrs and hrs of continious music.
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As an old fuddy dudd ... I can't imagine myself spending hundreds of bucks for a device that allows me to copy hundreds of tunes from another expensive device so I can listen to hundreds of tunes I've already heard - while walking/jogging/running/wrenching, etc.
But I *can* imagine hanging my $10 RadioShack radio around my neck, plopping the earphones in and listening to PBS (or whatever).
Edit: Just out of curiosity - how many hours would it take to copy 350 CDs to an iPod? And I assume I'd need to be there to insert and eject every one, one at a time?
A friend of mine has six versions of the iPod - the cheapest was $399. Good grief - that's enough in iPod purchases to take a major vacation.
Signs of the times.
Tom
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Imagine - in a couple hundred years - people will say "Ya know - back in 2007 people actually ate food that was grown in DIRT!"
But I *can* imagine hanging my $10 RadioShack radio around my neck, plopping the earphones in and listening to PBS (or whatever).
Edit: Just out of curiosity - how many hours would it take to copy 350 CDs to an iPod? And I assume I'd need to be there to insert and eject every one, one at a time?
A friend of mine has six versions of the iPod - the cheapest was $399. Good grief - that's enough in iPod purchases to take a major vacation.
Signs of the times.
Tom
a/k/a Frugal Luddite Over-the-hill Zealot
Imagine - in a couple hundred years - people will say "Ya know - back in 2007 people actually ate food that was grown in DIRT!"
Thanks everyone. Looks like I'm going to go look at Ipods and MP3s. Is there a major difference in the two? Also, I don't want to down load all the CDs just the ones I need for the gym. Started today and already know I should have kept up on my exercise. I use to ride 100 mile tours in one day so for a while I'll stick to 7 miles until some weight comes off. I have one little plaer I got of Ebay but my son had to put my AC/DC on it and only a few songs would fit. It has one of the cards that inserts. To think I use to build computers and custome programs and now I have trouble using Ipods.
AweMan
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Ipod is a brand name of an .mp3 player, .mp3 is the file format these compact players use, hence the term mp3 player.
Regular cd`s need to be converted {ripped} In order to play them on an .mp3 player. There are several advantages to having and using an mp3 system. One is you can store & play more music than on a regular cd player. Ripping from .wav or regular cd format to .mp3 dramatically reduces the file size there fore allowing more music to be stored on the same size media. The second advantage I like, is that you can archive your original cd`s {Store them away for future use} once you have ripped them to the .mp3 format. If your {in my case in my vehicles} .mp3 cd`s get stolen it`s no biggie, I just retrieve my original cd from storeage and re ripp it.
Regular cd`s need to be converted {ripped} In order to play them on an .mp3 player. There are several advantages to having and using an mp3 system. One is you can store & play more music than on a regular cd player. Ripping from .wav or regular cd format to .mp3 dramatically reduces the file size there fore allowing more music to be stored on the same size media. The second advantage I like, is that you can archive your original cd`s {Store them away for future use} once you have ripped them to the .mp3 format. If your {in my case in my vehicles} .mp3 cd`s get stolen it`s no biggie, I just retrieve my original cd from storeage and re ripp it.
If you are only going to use your mp3 player at the gym, then I would get the cheapest thing you like. That's what I did (I got a 512mb SanDisk item), cost about $80. It's flash based, so it can take getting dropped and whatnot, and it's cheap enough that if I break it I don't mind too much having to replace it (that would be my main issue with a regular 30 or 80 GB iPod-the hard drive is sensitive to shocks, so I would be loath to use it while running).
Here's the thing, though. I initially bought the SanDisk to use when running, just like you. Then I left it in my coat pocket and fished it out during a lunch break and realized I rather liked being able to listen to music of my own choosing while sitting in the breakroom. Then I realized I could hook it up to the portable CD/tape player in my office, so I didn't have to remember to bring CDs with me to work every day. Then I got a widget to plug into the tape deck of my car. Then I filled up the SanDisk and realized I really wanted more room, because sometimes you really want to hear Ogden's Nut Gone Flake and your copy is still at home. Which is how I ended up with a 60GB iPod that has several thousand songs on it.
If the above scenario sounds like something that may happen to you, then I would get something like an iPod Nano (or similar). No moving parts, but several GB of room so you can have plenty of music on it and not always have to listen to your "workout mix" when you decide to bust out the mp3 player on that long plane trip or during that fifteen minute coffee break where you just want to read and not be disturbed.
I would also stay away from those devices that have mp3 players, cameras, voice memo recorders, phones, tweezers, and other stuff in them. I've tried several of these, and while I think the convenience might be nice sometimes, they never seem to do any one of those tasks very well, and certainly not as well as a dedicated mp3 player, camera, etc.
Just the opinions of someone who has been there and bought that.
(The SanDisk is still going strong, by the by, although sometimes I can't get a signal out of it without twisting the headphone plug around a lot. I think the sweat has gotten to it).
-Wm.
Here's the thing, though. I initially bought the SanDisk to use when running, just like you. Then I left it in my coat pocket and fished it out during a lunch break and realized I rather liked being able to listen to music of my own choosing while sitting in the breakroom. Then I realized I could hook it up to the portable CD/tape player in my office, so I didn't have to remember to bring CDs with me to work every day. Then I got a widget to plug into the tape deck of my car. Then I filled up the SanDisk and realized I really wanted more room, because sometimes you really want to hear Ogden's Nut Gone Flake and your copy is still at home. Which is how I ended up with a 60GB iPod that has several thousand songs on it.
If the above scenario sounds like something that may happen to you, then I would get something like an iPod Nano (or similar). No moving parts, but several GB of room so you can have plenty of music on it and not always have to listen to your "workout mix" when you decide to bust out the mp3 player on that long plane trip or during that fifteen minute coffee break where you just want to read and not be disturbed.
I would also stay away from those devices that have mp3 players, cameras, voice memo recorders, phones, tweezers, and other stuff in them. I've tried several of these, and while I think the convenience might be nice sometimes, they never seem to do any one of those tasks very well, and certainly not as well as a dedicated mp3 player, camera, etc.
Just the opinions of someone who has been there and bought that.
(The SanDisk is still going strong, by the by, although sometimes I can't get a signal out of it without twisting the headphone plug around a lot. I think the sweat has gotten to it).
-Wm.
terriphill
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For excercise I like the ipod shuffle. Its small, lightweight and easy to load. It doesn't cost much and I picked up the warranty that covers anything that could go wrong (even running over it with a car) so it can be replaced if I drop it in the pool (don't ask)
It holds about 2 hours of music that I just drag and drop from my files. I change the music whenever I get tired of the songs on it and I even have a list set up that is "exercise" songs.
I bought an armband so I can wear it on by arm and its never in the way.
It holds about 2 hours of music that I just drag and drop from my files. I change the music whenever I get tired of the songs on it and I even have a list set up that is "exercise" songs.
I bought an armband so I can wear it on by arm and its never in the way.
terriphill
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No...more like rolling stones, beatles, Joni Mitchell, Pink Floyd, Carol King...
terriphill
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ooh forgot that one...so much great music, so little time /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
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terriphill said:
+1 on the shuffle for exercise purposes. They hold 240 songs and play them randomly. They're also very lightweight.
My wife bought me an ipod video for Christmas a couple of years ago. I've really enjoyed it, but would hesitate to wear it while exercising.
terriphill said:
Can you put your own choice of music on the Shuffle? I was under the impression that when you plugged the Shuffle into your computer it randomly loaded in music from your harddrive. Which would be a drag, if you were cranking along listening to good exercise music and it suddenly popped up with Jobim's "Agua de Beber".
The SanDisk simply refused to work the other day, so I think it's heading to that great CompUSA in the sky.
-William
