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Just took delivery on a 2015 Subaru Legacy. I love the way it drives but the electronic gizmos and gadgets - my God. By far the largest part of the owner's manual is devoted to the audio system - 112 pages! It took me almost 1/2 hour to figure out how to preset about a dozen stations.Like all electronic devices, the manual is useless.These manuals all tell you where to go nut not how to get there. Microsoft, anyone? And guess what? I have no idea what I did or how to do it again. And the Subaru is supposed to be one of the more user-friendly ones. I don't have the GPS or Eye Sight but I'm just as glad. The backup camera is a good feature - when I remember to use it. A member of the younger generation told me not to worry - "you'll never use most of the features anyway". That's why I still use a flip phone. My wife has a Samsung smart phone but she's only a kid - 73. At 81, I may be better off sticking with my '02 Accord, now turned over to the wife. And to think I once flew airplanes for years without a problem. Now I can't program a VCR. Technology - ain't it wonderful.
 
A VCR and a flip phone... tell me your not using dial-up and a dot matrix printer :rolleye:
We just got a new RAV4 for my wife and it also has these "gadgets". She doesn't even use most of them. I drove her car today and had lots of fun trying them out!
 
The manual for navigation is the worst... but I just felt my way.
I'll tell you that the BEST new technology (that I now love) is/are those proximity do-dads. They've completely changed parking because I don't worry about how close I am to things (and move into spaced that I previously might have tried a few times just to be safe).
 
Flip phone, dial phones, vacuum tube (valves) radios, flathead Fords and XP. All I need.
 
I'm 47, but I still prefer reading a map to using a navigation system. I like knowing where I'm going BEFORE I start driving there, not while I am in the act of driving. I do have to admit, the Bluetooth is useful for hand-free calling, and for playing songs that are saved on the iPhone. Satellite radio is a luxury that I've become too accustomed to.

Maybe that's why I find driving the Sprite so enjoyable, because it is driving at its most basic and organic level: Manual steering, manual brakes, manual transmission. You become part of the car. Every input you put in is directly connected to the car. No electronic assist, no power anything, no computer doing the thinking for your Mark I-A brain. Best of all the climate control system consists of only two settings: top up or top down.
 
EXACTLY the reason I sold our 2003 Dodge Dakota 4WD!! - TOO MUCH TECHNOLOGY! just how much of this crap do you need? - Doug
 
Some random thoughts at 4 am. (At my age, you don't sleep too good).I'm with you on the map issue. I always consult a map before leaving - if I have one. We use a small hand-held Garmin. Works fine - except when it doesn't, or takes you on some cockamamie route, like trying to return to Baltimore when traversing the beltway. Just found out I can record a TV program using my remote. Boomer Esiason on WFAN. Who knew? The Subaru salesman synched my flip phone to Bluetooth remote. Finally, somewhere hidden in the piles of crap I've accumulated, there just may be a dot-matrix printer. I still have for sure a box of the perforated paper.
 
One of the things I really like about my ~2009 Chevy cargo van~ is that it's basic in the sense of old cars. Just a radio. Roll up manual windows. A normal "key" (no remote). Manual seat adjust. Mine's a V6 so it's even pretty basic on power (but fine for towing my little race car). It does have air conditioning and automatic. Those are standard items these days but I actually like both of them anyway.

The remote in our Honda Accord is sort of quirky. When the battery finally went dead in it, my wife said, "Don't bother changing the battery....we'll just use the key like we did in older cars." Fine with me. :friendly_wink:
 
I've been driving a 2015 Corolla today while my car is having a complete brake job. It's ok, but like many I'm not enamored with having an electronic display in the dash, during the dark this morning I found the light from it distracting. And I don't think any of us need something that requires you to look away from the road. I won't even mention my dislike of an automatic transmission....
 
At least my Subaru has a real key and not one of those accursed fobs. You can also tune the radio manually if you wish. Now if I could only find the clock. I took the owner's manual into my office. Study time.
In an unrelated topic, to celebrate our new purchase, my wife collided with a BMW at an intersection yesterday wiping out the right front bumper of our '97 Maxima. The Law of Compensation. ( Ask the Kennedy's.) I was going to ask $2,950.00 for the car, but now? Hold on. This morning the cable guy came to the house and he's interested, damage and all. Except for the right front headlight which was undamaged but died from fright, and the 2 parking lights which were left hanging, the car runs perfectly and everything works. I'll also check the fuses if I can get the cover off the fusebox.
 
I like all of it, cruise control , heated and cooled seats, don't have to stick a key in a slot...in fact I don't even have to push a button to unlock it.
It's great

Best part is I can just think about changing the radio station and it does it.
 
pdplot, I can't wait for DST and your report. Seriously you might want to try YouTube. When I've had a problem and not just electronics, it's served me well. Good luck.
 
I don't want a new learning curve just to get from point-A to point-B. Don't have the time for it. Same basic attitude as Dave; old Motorola flip-phone. Four cylinder twin-cam with points and a five speed manual box, all parallel to direction of travel, with the rear wheels pushing it. All the bells-n-whistles are both distraction and things to fail, which cannot be fixed with tools commonly at hand. I'll be switched if I'm willing to pay some outrageous shop rate to repair a doodad I never needed or wanted in the first place, just to maintain "resale value." I'd rather put time and money into resurrecting some Eurotrash Yestertech thing.
 
... oh, right, forgot the heated seats on a winter morning. Nice.
 
Found the clock. It was right there in the middle of the dash next to the heater "picture". Very small though. This car has a good feature - a manual shift mode using 2 paddle shifters located behind the steering wheel. I accidentally engaged the downshift one and the engine roared and scared the pants off me before I figured it out. Although it has a CVT transmission, Subaru cleverly figured out how to program in shift points just like a traditional automatic transmission so you avoid that Powerglide/Dynaflow effect where the transmission races and the engine catches up. I found it annoying on the new Accord.
 
Ah, the good ol' days. Remember when *this* was a dash?

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You could do everything by "feel", without squinting at tiny icons on a small LCD panel.
 
:lol:

Touche'!
 
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