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My BJ8 has the ‘standard’ basic coil and I wonder if anyone has used either the Intermotor or Lucas Sport coil. If so, do they give any noticeable improvement of any kind?
 

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My BJ8 has the ‘standard’ basic coil and I wonder if anyone has used either the Intermotor or Lucas Sport coil. If so, do they give any noticeable improvement of any kind?

If you have the standard coil that came with your car, it is likely more reliable than the modern replacements, which have had quality problems.
 
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If you have the standard coil that came with your car, it is likely more reliable than the modern replacements, which have had quality problems.

I'll second that. My BJ8, with about 210K miles, is still running its original coil (with a dent in it, even). AFAIK, an 'uprated' coil capable of producing a hotter spark--with a larger plug gap--would only be beneficial in a highly-modded engine with compression over the nominal 9.1:1, and you'd need to upgrade the entire ignition system to prevent cross-firing.
 
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I'll second that. My BJ8, with about 210K miles, is still running its original coil (with a dent in it, even). AFAIK, an 'uprated' coil capable of producing a hotter spark--with a larger plug gap--would only be beneficial in a highly-modded engine with compression over the nominal 9.1:1, and you'd need to upgrade the entire ignition system to prevent cross-firing.

Thanks Bob. The existing coil is working just fine and this may be a case of leaving well enough alone. My compression is approximately 9.4:1 according to the firm that rebuilt it and I am running a Pertronix Ignitor 1 ignition. When you say upgrade the entire system, what beyond the wires would that entail?

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FWIW - Advanced Distributors sells top entry caps for the BJ8 which will accept modern push-in wires.

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If you have the standard coil that came with your car, it is likely more reliable than the modern replacements, which have had quality problems.

OR

You can get one of em blue things steveg got on his car we call em Volvo coils and they are hotter than stock too and last forever, Volvo used them on most of their cars from 50"s to late 70"s
 
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Just to close the loop on this. I did purchase a Petronix Flamethrower coil and installed it with the existing Lucas distributor cap and solid core wire set.

Although there was nothing really wrong with the standard coil that it replaces, the change has been worthwhile.

I checked for arcing between wires and found no visible arcing when running the engine in pitch darkness. (I am using the stock black HT leads fro Ahead 4 Healeys). I’ve dealt with bad HT leads before and observed a visible blue plasma between the leads before changing out the wires. I saw nothing resembling this.

I have found that the car starts a more quickly, runs at a slightly higher RPM for the same level of choke on warm-up and when I push the car (eg 4000-4500 RPM) it feels a bit stronger at higher RPM and all the way through the rev range. Nothing dramatic, but positive subtle improvements over a week’s driving.
 

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If I remember correctly, the Pertronix ignition does not like solid wires if You are using that as well.
 

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I used solid (metal stranded) wires for many years with no problems on my previous Pertronix I setup. On their site, IIRC, they now recommend against that. Pertronix II requires modern wires.
 
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Sorry, I neglected to mention that my ignition system is the Petronix Ignitor 1, which uses solid core wires. I’ve been running solid core wires with this system for about 8 years now.
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Sorry, I neglected to mention that my ignition system is the Petronix Ignitor 1, which uses solid core wires. I’ve been running solid core wires with this system for about 8 years now.
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I've had a 'I' on my BJ8 for, oh, 15-20 years with stranded wires. The 'II' is not available for positive ground, unfortunately (it has some advantages over the I).
 

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Interesting :

That solid wire was used by some.

However , the principal reasons for changing to stranded wire was:

1 It lowered tre electrical résistance allowing more energy to the plugs , but contributed to generating electrmagnetic interference , not so mucch a problem back in the day
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2 it significantly reduced the potentil for wire breakage , by making the wire more flexible.
 
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