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TR2/3/3A I'm stuck... alternator/wiring/starting/?

flickerdown

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Note: I did cross-post this to Triumph Experience as well but I'm out of ideas...

I'll add pictures later tonight.

2 things I did:
1.) Moss Alternator replacement for the generator
2.) Wizard Radiator/Fan combo

I've removed the fan electric from consideration right now to focus on the core problem.

first:
switched from positive to negative ground.
new positive terminal to starter solenoid lead. pretty easy swap. just flipped the battery around. have verified with a battery tester (Black and Decker charging) that the battery is at full charge.

second:
generator to alternator replacement. all good here and I DID NOT replace the generator wiring ends on the alternator side (moss provides a spade + plastic box kit)

third:
i followed the direction explicitly. I've removed the replacement lucas terminal and have the following wires:
green/blue, green/yellow, and yellow --> all connected to the same terminal post (easiest way to test connections)
original ground (black) is disconnected and now off to the side and not attached to anything
yellow/red (16/18awg?) is butt-connected back to the yellow lead.

Wiring.JPG is current state.
test wiring.JPG was using a press in connector for testing.

first test:
when i FIRST tried to test, the dash ignition light came on and the starter button worked. there was a SPARK from the positive terminal. engine did not turn over.

second test:
I forgot to change the leads over on the ignition coil so, I did that, made sure all the wiring connections were solid and...no light, nothing.

I'm stumped.

any ideas how to test? I do have a Fluke 80 that I can use to test wiring though, at this point, I'm really unsure as to what I'm going to be testing...I'm stumped.

HELP!!!!I'll add pictures later tonight.

2 things I did:
1.) Moss Alternator replacement for the generator
2.) Wizard Radiator/Fan combo

I've removed the fan electric from consideration right now to focus on the core problem.

first:
switched from positive to negative ground.
new positive terminal to starter solenoid lead. pretty easy swap. just flipped the battery around. have verified with a battery tester (Black and Decker charging) that the battery is at full charge.

second:
generator to alternator replacement. all good here and I DID NOT replace the generator wiring ends on the alternator side (moss provides a spade + plastic box kit)

third:
i followed the direction explicitly. I've removed the replacement lucas terminal and have the following wires:
green/blue, green/yellow, and yellow --> all connected to the same terminal post (easiest way to test connections)
original ground (black) is disconnected and now off to the side and not attached to anything
yellow/red (16/18awg?) is butt-connected back to the yellow lead.

Wiring.JPG is current state.
test wiring.JPG was using a press in connector for testing.

first test:
when i FIRST tried to test, the dash ignition light came on and the starter button worked. there was a SPARK from the positive terminal. engine did not turn over.

second test:
I forgot to change the leads over on the ignition coil so, I did that, made sure all the wiring connections were solid and...no light, nothing.

I'm stumped.

any ideas how to test? I do have a Fluke 80 that I can use to test wiring though, at this point, I'm really unsure as to what I'm going to be testing...I'm stumped.

HELP!!!!
 

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Did you switch the leads on the ammeter? I think that is polarity dependent.
Tom
 
I think I read on TTE that you got this problem resolved.
 
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