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How to Wire an Overdrive?

mgbmedic

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I got my rebuilt o/d tranny back in the TR3 and am wondering if anyone has a step by step instructions for how to wire the harness/switch/relay. I've converted the car to Neg ground, have an alternator instead of generator set up.
 
I don't have a writeup, but it's easy enough. Here's a diagram from Practical Hints 4th ed, which matched the factory setup on TS39781LO fairly close:



In no particular order:

Mount the relay where you want it (I used the original location on the back of the battery box but almost anywhere will do except on the engine itself.)

Black wire from one side of each isolator switch to ground.

Join other sides together, run a wire to one coil terminal of the relay.

Wire one contact terminal of relay to OD solenoid. TS39781LO originally had some loose PVC sleeving, but I used tight nylon mesh when I replaced the tired old wires.



The other relay contact goes to the battery side of the ammeter. I added an in-line fuse to this line, both to protect the wiring and to perhaps protect the solenoid in case it hung up somehow. The pull-in coil will burn out quickly if something prevents the solenoid from moving all the way, like a piece of gravel. But with a fuse in the line, the fuse will burn out first. I used an MDA-8 "slo blo" since that's what I had on hand, but an ordinary 5 or 10 amp fuse should do fine. The fuse won't heat up enough to blow during the brief instant when the pull-in coil is doing its thing, but will blow if the contacts inside the solenoid don't open PDQ.

The other relay coil terminal goes to one side of the operating switch on the dash.

Although the diagram shows the final wire from the other side of the operating switch going to A3 on the fuse block, the original wire on TS39781LO went to the 'hot' terminal of the starter switch. Since A3 isn't fused anyway, and the short run under the instruments seemed well protected, I kept that arrangement.

One other thing, I had a lot of trouble with replacement relays not lasting very long, until I added a diode across the solenoid. (Actually the diode is located at the relay, but electrically it is across the solenoid.) The diode is the only polarity-sensitive component; for a negative ground car, the end with the stripe should go to the solenoid wire and the other end to ground.
Here's a shot of the diode, on TS39781LO before I reworked the OD wiring
 
Here is something crazy. I have mine wired straight through the switch to the solenoid! I have had it that way for a long, long time. I did it for temporary to start with but have never gotten around to putting a relay in there.

Dan B
South Charleston, WV
 
Hope this helps. BTW - if you order the Moss overdrive wiring harness be aware it's for the TR4 and has a bunch of extra wires that will initially drive you crazy. Ask me how I know. ;-).

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Here is something crazy. I have mine wired straight through the switch to the solenoid! I have had it that way for a long, long time. I did it for temporary to start with but have never gotten around to putting a relay in there.
Oddly enough, Triumph did the same thing on early Stags. Beats me how that wimpy little switch in the shift knob would stand up to the 20+ amps that the solenoid draws initially, but apparently it at least lasted through the warranty period.

OTOH, Stags are not known for their reliability, so maybe that was just one more feature. I've already had to replace the switch once, even with a J-type OD that only draws a couple of amps. If the new one fails again, I'm going to add a relay.

PS, the diagram that Luke44 gave above is what is in some of the manuals; but not quite the same as what I described (and found on TS39781LO when it came to me). Either one will work fine, I just wanted to point out the difference in case someone is trying to follow both.
 
well, the truth is... I fried the first harness, the extra wires might have been the culprit, I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks again, Bob
 
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