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Not much different, no. The 1300 heads don't have the "exposed push rod tubes" of the earlier 948/1147 heads, they have eight ports instead of six (siamesed intake ports on the earlier heads), and there are only 10 head studs on the 1300 instead of 11, but that's about it for the engine itself.
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Thanks Andy.
I am thinking of this from an insurance point of view.Any changes are not viewed at all well here in France. I think however I am going to be able to purchase the car and keep it on English plates,but insured in France.That way there shouldn't be too much hassle.Just started the negotiations and will go to England shortly.
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I am thinking of this from an insurance point of view.Any changes are not viewed at all well here in France. I think however I am going to be able to purchase the car and keep it on English plates,but insured in France.That way there shouldn't be too much hassle.Just started the negotiations and will go to England shortly.
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I need some help to clarify my thinking!! The Herald Coupé I am thinking of buying has a 1300 Spitfire engine and gear box.This would make the gearing,I believe as follows
1st 3.504:1 2nd 2.158:1 and third 1.394:1
I want to compare this to the gearbox in my Wolseley 1500 which is
1st 3.6363:1 2nd 2.2143:1 and third 1.376:1
Is it fair to say that the Spitfire box should be more "sporty".
The Wolseley suffers from going off the cam between 2nd and 3rd when it's being pushed in the mountains between hairpins. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif
From the figures shown would the Spit box perform better?
Apologies for being thick!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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1st 3.504:1 2nd 2.158:1 and third 1.394:1
I want to compare this to the gearbox in my Wolseley 1500 which is
1st 3.6363:1 2nd 2.2143:1 and third 1.376:1
Is it fair to say that the Spitfire box should be more "sporty".
The Wolseley suffers from going off the cam between 2nd and 3rd when it's being pushed in the mountains between hairpins. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif
From the figures shown would the Spit box perform better?
Apologies for being thick!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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For further comparison...
Herald 948: 4.271 (1); 2.46 (2); 1.454 (3); 1.0 (4).
Herald 1200 & 13/60*; Spitfire 4, Spitfire 4 Mk2, Spitfire Mk.3: 3.75 (1); 2.16 (2); 1.4 (3); 1.0 (4).
Spitfire Mk.IV -- three-rail, all-synchro: 3.51 (1); 2.16 (2); 1.39 (3); 1.0 (4).
Spitfire 1500, Toledo, Dolomite 1500 "single-rail" gearbox: as MkIV except 3.5 (1).
And then there are the GT6/Vitesse/TR7 gearbox ratios!
You are probably correct that the ratios you quote for the Spitfire are a bit more sporting than those for the Wolseley. But I point out the variations above because the gearboxes are all very similar on the outside, and it is not all that difficult to swap these gearboxes around from one car to another, so it probably is best to check the gearbox serial number to know better which one you have.
The same is true for the engines; the serial number prefix is probably the best way to be sure of which engine you have.
Herald 948: 4.271 (1); 2.46 (2); 1.454 (3); 1.0 (4).
Herald 1200 & 13/60*; Spitfire 4, Spitfire 4 Mk2, Spitfire Mk.3: 3.75 (1); 2.16 (2); 1.4 (3); 1.0 (4).
Spitfire Mk.IV -- three-rail, all-synchro: 3.51 (1); 2.16 (2); 1.39 (3); 1.0 (4).
Spitfire 1500, Toledo, Dolomite 1500 "single-rail" gearbox: as MkIV except 3.5 (1).
And then there are the GT6/Vitesse/TR7 gearbox ratios!
You are probably correct that the ratios you quote for the Spitfire are a bit more sporting than those for the Wolseley. But I point out the variations above because the gearboxes are all very similar on the outside, and it is not all that difficult to swap these gearboxes around from one car to another, so it probably is best to check the gearbox serial number to know better which one you have.
The same is true for the engines; the serial number prefix is probably the best way to be sure of which engine you have.
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NICE looking Coupé, Curtis! Looks like Litchfield Green to me...one of my favorite Triumph colors. I don't suppose you have any pictures of the engine itself, do you?
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Nice ride Curtis. If I'm ever in France you'll have to give me a ride in it.
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Have just arrived back from England /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/england.gif with guess what on the trailer? Yes, I bought the Herald Coupé. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Lots of questions already but a good night's sleep is more attractive. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif More later.
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Lots of questions already but a good night's sleep is more attractive. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif More later.
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Same here! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Is there a record anywhere,other than Heritage to check the original colour? I have the original logbook and the colour is noted as Litchfield green,but no mention of white as well.Were they single colour as well as bi colour?
I note that on the boot where there are some scratches you can see the green underneath. I think this has been painted since.It runs well and the 1300Spitfire engine and gearbox are quite lively. Uprated springs and adjustable shockers all round and an uprated rear axle spring.
First of many questions. The clips securing the bonnet are not very firm and they shake loose. Is this just from wear and just need replacing or is there a demon tweak that one can do to keep the bonnet shut?
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I note that on the boot where there are some scratches you can see the green underneath. I think this has been painted since.It runs well and the 1300Spitfire engine and gearbox are quite lively. Uprated springs and adjustable shockers all round and an uprated rear axle spring.
First of many questions. The clips securing the bonnet are not very firm and they shake loose. Is this just from wear and just need replacing or is there a demon tweak that one can do to keep the bonnet shut?
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The "duotone" color (usually white) was literally sprayed over whatever the base color of the car was. Duotoning was a popular option at first, but it gradually lost favor and was finally dropped in the mid-1960s. The Heritage certificate is the only relatively sure way to determine if the car was done this way originally.
As for the bonnet latches, some adjustment is possible where they catch on the scuttle side, and it will help a bit as well if whatever "buffers" (adjustable cone-shaped rubber bits on later cars and pieces of rubber on an adjustable bracket on earlier cars) are where they should be. And sometimes overall alignment of the bonnet, for which there is a lot of adjustment, will affect this. Finally, sometimes the latches just wear out, but that's less common.
As for the bonnet latches, some adjustment is possible where they catch on the scuttle side, and it will help a bit as well if whatever "buffers" (adjustable cone-shaped rubber bits on later cars and pieces of rubber on an adjustable bracket on earlier cars) are where they should be. And sometimes overall alignment of the bonnet, for which there is a lot of adjustment, will affect this. Finally, sometimes the latches just wear out, but that's less common.
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Have adjusted the bonnet catches ,so we will see if it works. The original log book for the car says it was green so according to what you say Andy it would have been sprayed afterwards,and on top of the original paint.Do you know the paint code for Litchfield Green?.
The top of the dashboard surround has worn and you can see patches of brown through the black.
Was thinking of painting it? What do you suggest? Bear in mind it is a competition car not concours,but it can still look smart!
More pics to follow,but I still work with steam driven cameras,so will have to wait for the film to be developed!!
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The top of the dashboard surround has worn and you can see patches of brown through the black.
Was thinking of painting it? What do you suggest? Bear in mind it is a competition car not concours,but it can still look smart!
More pics to follow,but I still work with steam driven cameras,so will have to wait for the film to be developed!!
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I found this...I dont know if its quite what you are looking for or not? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I found it here... https://mywebpages.comcast.net/rhodes/paint.html
2. Lichfield Green can be mixed as follows: (from TSB T-63-56, 8-22-63)
DUPONT
(246)-83738 Duco Lichfield Grn. (1 pint)
#54 White 289
#58 Ferrite Yellow 362
#65 Black (Hi Strength) 406
#63-H Fast Green 436
#49 Clear 459
(93)-83725 Dulux Lichfield Grn. (1 qt)
VD-5450 Additive 37
#6-H Fast Green 202
#2 Black (Hi Strength) 379
#5 Ferrite Yellow 580
#1 White (Hi Hiding) 956
3. Lichfield Green can be mixed as follows: (from TSB T-63-69, 11-22-63)
RINSHED-MASON Paint:
Lacquer...U3520 Lichfield Grn (Lacquer)
p/K Paint component Total p/K
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100 Lacquer thinner 100
467 30901 White 567
194 30401 Black 761
163 30704 Ferrite Yellow 924
39 30306 Organic Green 963
37 30203 Astral Blue 1000
Enamel...2U3520 Lichfield Grn (Per-MAX)
p/K Paint component Total p/K
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100 TE-01 S.S. Mix 100
260 TE-41 Black 360
251 TE-74 Ferrite Yellow 904
230 TE-94 Bright White 841
98 TE-31 Organic Green 939
61 TE-22 Astral Blue 1000
Good luck /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif
I found it here... https://mywebpages.comcast.net/rhodes/paint.html
2. Lichfield Green can be mixed as follows: (from TSB T-63-56, 8-22-63)
DUPONT
(246)-83738 Duco Lichfield Grn. (1 pint)
#54 White 289
#58 Ferrite Yellow 362
#65 Black (Hi Strength) 406
#63-H Fast Green 436
#49 Clear 459
(93)-83725 Dulux Lichfield Grn. (1 qt)
VD-5450 Additive 37
#6-H Fast Green 202
#2 Black (Hi Strength) 379
#5 Ferrite Yellow 580
#1 White (Hi Hiding) 956
3. Lichfield Green can be mixed as follows: (from TSB T-63-69, 11-22-63)
RINSHED-MASON Paint:
Lacquer...U3520 Lichfield Grn (Lacquer)
p/K Paint component Total p/K
---------------------------------
100 Lacquer thinner 100
467 30901 White 567
194 30401 Black 761
163 30704 Ferrite Yellow 924
39 30306 Organic Green 963
37 30203 Astral Blue 1000
Enamel...2U3520 Lichfield Grn (Per-MAX)
p/K Paint component Total p/K
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100 TE-01 S.S. Mix 100
260 TE-41 Black 360
251 TE-74 Ferrite Yellow 904
230 TE-94 Bright White 841
98 TE-31 Organic Green 939
61 TE-22 Astral Blue 1000
Good luck /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif
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Thanks for that Brian.I have located some already made up in litres and also in aerosol.In England.It's helpful to have the mix,though.
As promised a couple more pics now that the car is back home in France.
The engine is 1300 Spitfire,gearbox also. At the moment I am not sure what is correct Herald Coupé and what is not. I imagine the alternator is non standard.?
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As promised a couple more pics now that the car is back home in France.
The engine is 1300 Spitfire,gearbox also. At the moment I am not sure what is correct Herald Coupé and what is not. I imagine the alternator is non standard.?
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At the moment I am not sure what is correct Herald Coupé and what is not. I imagine the alternator is non standard.?
[/ QUOTE ]Correct; the alternator IS nonstandard. Normally, your Herald would have the typical Lucas C40 generator.
At the moment I am not sure what is correct Herald Coupé and what is not. I imagine the alternator is non standard.?
[/ QUOTE ]Correct; the alternator IS nonstandard. Normally, your Herald would have the typical Lucas C40 generator.