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While I had everything apart, I decided to add headlight relays to my Midget. I figured it would be an improvement to get power from the battery directly to the headlights instead of through the switch.

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I took some aluminum L channel and made a bracket to mount the relays. One relay is for the low beams and the other relay is for the high beams. I spliced into the Blue/Red and Blue/White wires and added the relays. The relay in the back (far right in pic) is for the electric fan. I still have room to add a relay for driving lights, as I'll be installing a set here this week.

I used a left over electric fuel pump relay kit that I had ordered from Summit Racing, since it had all the hardware I needed. Same size thickness of wires in the relay kit as the wires for the headlights. I ended up ordering another kit so I'd have the same setup for the hi beams, so I did this kind of the expensive way (the kit is 23 bucks from Summit, but the kit gives you everything including the breaker and terminal lugs).

You can low buck the job by going to Walmart and getting 2 driving light installation kits for 10 bucks each, which comes with everything you need (plus you'll have two really cool looking LED switches left over that your kids may like). The wiring in those Walmart kits is only like 16 gauge, but you only need a few inches of wire from the relay to splice into the headlight wires. Considering that the headlight wires that come from the headlight bucket to the splice connections are only like 16 gauge, I wouldn't see a problem with using the Walmart kit, however. I'll probably do a Walmart late night shopping excursion in the near future and pick up a kit for my driving lights (besides I like that switch that comes in the kit..).

I use a 30Amp circuit breaker, fed from the battery and routed to both relays.

In summary, what's needed:
1. 2 Relays, 10 amp or greater, with sockets. Most relay/ sockets already have the wires on them so you shouldn't have to buy additional wire.
2. Some heat shrink (good engineering practice and just looks neater) for the wires.
3. Soldering iron and solder. I suppose you could use wire crimps, but just a better engineering practice (did I already say that?).
4. Some wire cutters, for uh, cutting wires.
5. A 20 Amp circuit breaker or fuse, or 2 10 Amp fuses or breakers for each circuit. Overkill the design by running a 20 Amp breaker with 10 amp fuses to each relay. Using the circuit breaker has the advantage of having terminal lugs, so you can use a ring terminal to connect the power wire rather than soldering.
6. Couple feet of some 8, 10 or 12 gauge to get from the battery to the circuit breaker (or fuse). I used a piece of 8 gauge car stereo power wire to get from the battery to the circuit breaker. Another option is to tap off the starter solenoid instead of the battery for a cleaner look (I'll probably go back and reroute my wire to the solenoid).
7. A couple of terminal lugs for the battery and circuit breaker.
8. A couple of fasteners to mount the relays. I built the bracket for the relays so I wouldn't have to drill holes all over the firewall for mounting them.
9. Some tie wraps or electrical tape. You want it to look neat, right?

Perhaps overkill, but it maximizes my H4 headlights and the charging capabilities of my Delco alternator.
 
No sucha thang as "overkill" with these things! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Nice work. I still have to decide just how I'm going to mount the ones I've added to Herself's B for driving lights and likely an air horn. But I have a LOT more under bonnet room than you guys do for locations.
 
Nice job...very neat. Question...when you use a relay are you still using the dashboard switch to turn the lights on? How does that work?

Thanks...
 
Just use the switch as the trigger voltage for the relays. Call it "Life Extension" for old Lucas switches. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
DrEntropy said:
Just use the switch as the trigger voltage for the relays. Call it "Life Extension" for old Lucas switches. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

I didn't think it was a bright (pun intended) idea to have a 10 amp draw (2 55 watt headlights=10 Amps) through that Lucas switch!

1. The wires I spliced into run from the switch to the lights.
2. I cut the blue/white and blue/red leads in the engine compartment.
a. The power distribution side of the relay routes the battery directly to the headlights via a circuit breaker. A 20 amp breaker would be ideal, or two ten amp breakers or fuses for each circuit. Radio Shack has some great Marine style fuse holders that have 12 gauge wires on them.
b. On the trigger side of the relay, I soldered the trigger leads of the relays into the wires going back to the switch.

Now the light switch's only purpose is to trigger the relay- next to nothing in current draw through the switch. Operation of the switch hasn't changed at all.
 
And a much better chance at NOT needing to buy those counterfeit ones wot self-destruct on the second throw being sold now. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Good on ya!
 
I used just one relay on the
BugEye..works good..Am thinking about getting another for the parking light circuit...Nice job...
 
As I have old harnesses around, I opted to use appropriate color-coded wiring to make up the independent harnesses for the various gizmos... only problem I have is: What color should the air-horn compressor & relay get? More purple? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif
 
Nice job, indeed!

You can get Panasonic automotive relays from Digi-Key (https://www.digikey.com/) and probably other electronic distributors. Panasonic isn't the only maker, so there are probably plenty of options. These cost about $5 and are rated at 40 amps. The electromagnet current is a couple hundred milliamps, if I remember correctly, pretty small by automotive standards. I bought a handful of these so I'd have a stock for future projects.

The best reason for adding headlight relays is to minimize the current in the switch--I really wince at the thought of that helpless little switch chopping tens of amps. Certainly won't last forever doing that.
 
Nicely done! Some may argue it's another thing to fail, but since I installed relays, things are better overall. The lights are brighter, the other accessories aren't suffering from the voltage drop, and since my reproduction signal/dimmer switch couldn't take the low beam current without deforming (and losing the low beams), I think it was a good choice. Besides, now they have fuses which they didn't have before.
 
sparkydave said:
Some may argue it's another thing to fail

Better a cheap relay than those Unobtanium switches!!!

'sides: when the bonnet's down, who can tell?!?! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/devilgrin.gif


...I've even thought of hidin' 'em all under th' dash. Somebody pokin' their snoot up under THERE without authorization would have my diminutive size 7.5 foot well-and-truly planted someplace anatomically UGLY 'n discomforting. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif
 
Since I had the fenders off, I mounted them in the far left corner on top of the footwell. With the fenders on you can't even see the things, however you still have access to them.
 
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