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[mikephillips]

It's unexpected or unanticipated that's the problem and the world is filled with them. That's why they work best as robots in specific settings where those variables can be kept to a minimum. AI systems aren't really intelligent in human terms, they've just been designed to try to anticipate unknowns based on rules and what's happened to them before. No software can yet learn and make connections and recognize differences like the human brain, and if it ever can might be then self aware and not be interested in driving your truck of good or car with kids around.

 

[DrEntropy]

SD cars; Not ready for prime time. The Millennials who would have an SDC should opt for public transport and leave the driving to the rest of us.

No software can yet learn and make connections and recognize differences like the human brain, and if it ever can might be then self aware and not be interested in driving your truck of good or car with kids around.

Amen. Puny humans. :smirk:

 

[SaxMan]

To protect an SDC from all possible eventualities, they would have to become like those described in the short story "A Nice Morning Drive" by Richard Foster -- this story was the inspiration for the song "Red Barchetta" by Rush. Eventually cars would become massive enough that such impacts with fixed items would be inconsequential for their passengers.

 

[pdplot]

I did some extensive reading online about SDCs. Every point we raised as been raised and discussed. Volvo has already said they would be responsible for any accidents caused by their SD system. Insurance would shift primarily from us - the drivers - to the manufacturers and techies who designed these things. And get this. Elon Musk says that non-SD cars should be banned from the highways as too dangerous - and a lot of people agree with him. But his semi SD Tesla has already killed 2 drivers with doubtless more to come.

 

[judow]

SDC's - not for me. I have no desire to text and eat dinner while "driving." Wait a minute, I guess we won't call it driving. Geez.

 

[coldplugs]

A potential nightmare scenario:

You are traveling on a highway in "auto-drive" mode at 70mph. The car has safely navigated 50 miles on its own. Having nothing to do, you start to doze off.

Suddenly an alarm sounds and the car says "Unsafe condition - auto-drive mode terminated! - you are in control"

...And you find yourself sideways on black ice at 70mph.

 

[NutmegCT]

John - ain't that the truth! Similar circumstances have resulted in fatal airline catastrophes. Crew puts the aircraft into auto-pilot (and/or flight director), then relaxes. When weather (or whatever) give too many inputs for the autopilot to handle, it disconnects. But the crew haven't been watching the details, don't know what corrections the autopilot has been making, and don't know the true situation they're flying in.

 

[DrEntropy]

And get this. Elon Musk says that non-SD cars should be banned from the highways as too dangerous - and a lot of people agree with him.

Just one more example of the "protect us from ourselves" mentality that seems to be more and more prevalent as time goes on. Fewer folks seem to want to take responsibility for their actions.

"Wussification"! <sheesh>

 

[Basil]

Just one more example of the "protect us from ourselves" mentality that seems to be more and more prevalent as time goes on. Fewer folks seem to want to take responsibility for their actions.

"Wussification"! <sheesh>

Elon Musk can go pound sand!

 

[Keith_M]

A timely story for this discussion.

https://9to5google.com/2016/09/23/g...in-what-appears-to-be-its-worst-accident-yet/

 

[NutmegCT]

Thanks Keith. Here's another take on that accident:

"[FONT=&quot]Instead, the crash shows a much different problem for driverless cars—that they will continue to share the road with fallible human drivers for decades to come."

[/FONT]https://fortune.com/2016/09/25/crash-google-self-driving-car/