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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]Maybe I'll connect five 2 gallon each, metal gas cans
into a manifold of sorts, install new fuel lines and drive
and drag them around in my trunk.[/QUOTE]

Dale, that is the scariest most dangerous thing I have heard in well since Ford put the gas tank behind the rear wheels on the Pinto.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:] There isn't any of us, with the exception of those who have completely restored or replaced our tanks that don't have some junk or rust in there. [/QUOTE]

The "stuff" which came out of the bottom of my gas tank was pitch black with odd things floating in it.
 
Tinster said:
Tinster said:
Maybe I'll connect five 2 gallon each, metal gas cans
into a manifold of sorts, install new fuel lines and drive
and drag them around in my trunk.
d
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<span style="color: #009900">tongue-in-cheek!
I know the containers should be plastic !! </span>
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Dale -

Unless they are specifically designed for vehicle use and securely and permanently installed, DON'T DO IT!

I know you know this, but for the sake of the general public who may be reading this...
 
If you put 2 filters in parallel with a valve on each and the 1st gets clogged you could switch the the other with the valves to get you home.

<span style="color: #FFFFFF">in tee </span>valve filter
in tee <span style="color: #FFFFFF">valve filter</span> tee out
<span style="color: #FFFFFF">in tee</span> valve filter
 
startech47 said:
If you put 2 filters in parallel with a valve on each and the 1st gets clogged you could switch the the other with the valves to get you home.

<span style="color: #FFFFFF">in tee </span>valve filter
in tee <span style="color: #FFFFFF">valve filter</span> tee out
<span style="color: #FFFFFF">in tee</span> valve filter
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Great "low-tech" solution!! :thumbsup:
 
startech47 said:
If you put 2 filters in parallel with a valve on each and the 1st gets clogged you could switch the the other with the valves to get you home.

<span style="color: #FFFFFF">in tee </span>valve filter
in tee <span style="color: #FFFFFF">valve filter</span> tee out
<span style="color: #FFFFFF">in tee</span> valve filter
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<span style="color: #990000">A decent concept except my filters do not get
clogged up. It is the powdered rust that goes right thru
the filters and ends up as rust "mud" in my carb bowls
that is causing all the problems.

Two car breakdowns directly attributed to this tank originated
rust "mud" jamming up the carbs.

d</span>

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Dale,

Have you considered having the tank washed out with a high pressure spray or steamed with a Steam Jenny high pressure system? Most truck stops or truck service facilities have those. Or even commercial cleaners may have high pressure steam machines.
 
there is currently an aluminum tank on ebay for 499.00 he might ship to PR, or maybe someone that has a spare tank can POR it for you and ship to PR, just a suggestion

Hondo
 
the problem for anyone shipping a fuel tank to PR is that it has to be new, with absolutly no fuel vapors in it or it can't go air. And even then it's a big box and will cost Mucho$$ because of it's oversized status.
Dale, how about trying to contact some of the drag racers on the south side of the island? One of those guys may have a used fuel cell you could get cheap.
My other thought was, you said that the tank outlet is in a "sump" due to DPO Pedro. What if you set a socket over the outlet, then tapped it with a hammer to reverse the sump? Thus getting the outlet above the rust deposits.
I'm guessing that the big problem in cleaning the tank is not being able to see, or get, behind the baffles on either side. I'm not sure what to offer there except to get a little LED flashlight on the tip of a long flexible lead, and tape one of those micro digital cams to the side of it, then send your hommade "endoscope" into the abyss while watching it all on your laptop screen. Maybe that'll give you an idea of whats going on.
 
tosoutherncars said:
Remove, clean out, dissolve,
seal, reinstall. Drive.
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<span style="color: #990000">Hey Duncan!

Great advice. NOW, if you are able to Google
and locate a source of "fuel tank sealer", here
on thre island of Puerto Rico; speak with an actual
saleman and confirm the sealer is actually for sale
and is on the shelf in his store......

I will drive immediately to the store, purchase the sealer
and send you a pound of gourmet, mountain grown,
Puerto Rican coffee. </span>

<span style="color: #006600">Thanks Ben ! That idea was beginning to
come into focus as a concept. You got me oriented to a
specific group. Yes, all the racing shops are on the
south side of the island. I'll ask around.</span>



dale
 
Funny, I hadn't read your email, but I was doing just that! :smile:

I would suggest talking to these guys...

https://thortexpr.com/products.html

I'll leave the phone call to you, though... if it works out, I'll only require half a pound of coffee! :wink:

I'm guessing they will recommend their Chemi-Tech PU or USR... I see they're available in 4L packages, which should be a good quantity.
 
And they actually line tanks,

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Really, really big tanks. That is a ladder in there.
 
Dale,

I had the exact same problem with "rust mud". The POR dealer was 200 miles away on the Big Island but they were able to direct me to the agent on my island. He had the goods in his garage and I finally got the tank coated. The rust was coming from the 'roof' of the tank where the fuel dosen't cover. Maybe ethanol gas holding water made it prone to rust.

Anyway, while I orchestrated all that, I fitted a Fram G12 filter at the exit of the tank. Gravity caused most of the rust mud to settle and collect at the lower end of the filter. I changed the filter after coating the tank - you can see some white stuff is settled in there now (maybe it's sand).

The long rear-to-front run of pipe was full of the mud, which I used a copper wire then a Camelback 'snake' to clean out. The carb bowl fuel valve had a screen covering the inlet side, which was half plugged with the stuff too. All this caused weird problems until I got it all sorted out.

Why don't you stick a bunch of rare earth magnets on the bottom of the tank? Maybe they'll attract the rust dust and keep it from going down the outlet...Better make 'em the non-sparking type tho, bruddah!

Jeff
74 & 75.5 TR6
 

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Now THAT's a decent temporary fix!

Magnets plus filters should keep the car streetable
until a new tank or tank sealer can be acquired.

Thanks,

d
 
Dale: You might consider having someone weld up a tank for you using ordinary mild steel. It should be cheap. We recently sealed the TR3A tank and I was surprised at the simplicity of the design. I believe the TR-6 tank is even simpler.

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Dale, if someone has a fuel cell that you can buy it would be an excellent solution. If not, I know several people who have literally boiled their gas tanks on a grill to remove all the deposits (including the rust).

The rare earth magnets sound like a good solution also. As an extension of that concept, what if you bought a remote, spin-on oil filter head and used it as your filter with the rare earth magnets applied to the outside of the oil filter? An oil filter would have a lot of surface area so it would plug slowly. Since the fuel entering the filter would be moving slow due to the large internal filter area/volume, the magnets applied to the outside of the filter will have more time go attract any rust and magnetic sludge.

Thanks for setting me straight on the local POR dealer. I wonder if their corporate office on the mainland knows about the dealer's poor service.
 
aztvr said:
Perhaps one of these filters would help:

Fuel Filter - Old Fashioned Clear Glass Bowl, Magnetic Pickup

Metal Top Glass Bowl Fuel Filter
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<span style="color: #CC0000">Give the man a ceegar!! Looks like a real winner.
Never knew such magnetic type filters existed. I did a quick Google
and it looks like I might be able to locate an automotive sized model.

PM me yer mailing address and a package of mountain grown, Puerto Rico
gourmet coffee will soon arrive at your door.

THANKS!!!!!

dale</span>
 
Trust me, the coffee is good! If you like strong coffee you'll enjoy your prize. :thumbsup:
 
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