tony, ya godda teach jerri to shoot a bow, the picts i posted were taken from the deck off my kitchen this morning there where 8 of em, with so much frozen snow on the ground they where ripping the heck out of the branches of a crab apple tree right outside the door, last summer i made a nice rose garden for my victoria (wife) even managed to grow "black" roses, the morning i decided that theyd be big enough to bring some in for her i went out with my clippers only to find the deer had eaten every single rose stems and thorns as well, i know how jerri must feel i was infuriated. the deer are so bad here the neighbors beg me to hunt their property, my friends call my house "tony's salad bar" must be pretty warm for jerri to be growing lettuce allready. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/savewave.gif