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BigGreen said:
My first impression ..

Looks like a badge that was originaly painted, with the cloisonné added
I have one like this with the words "Quicksilver Stanford CT" in the back

Find what you like and use it ;-)
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My guess is this would have come from "Sports and Classics" https://sportsandclassics.com/ Some of their stuff is NOS and other is reproduction. Make your own decision.
 
Healey Nut

Can't tell about that badge from that picture: crapy camera angle---------:jester:

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P.S. If it look good it is OK----:highly_amused:
 
https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/Badges/MK111-BONNET-BADGE-enamel.aspx

Description: Manufactured in the UK exclusively for A.H. Spares
Ltd by one of the worlds finest badge manufactures, these magnificent
badges are indistinguishable from the originals.

Not to be compared with the other cheaper reproduction badge on the market.

These are made using the original vitreous enamel and not a plastic substitute. Well worth the money.


OE Part Number: AHB6012


Application: BJ8

Price: $151.24
 
Bob_Spidell said:
Says it's enamel (not
Champlevé)
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Champlevé is an enamelling technique in the decorative arts, or an object made by that process, in which troughs or cells are carved, etched, die struck, or cast into the surface of a metal object, and filled with vitreous enamel.

Above quote from google search .
 
Man it looks like the real thing!!

Vendor says:

"These are made using the original vitreous enamel and not a plastic substitute. Well worth the money."
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Cloisonné is an ancient technique for decorating metalwork objects, in recent centuries using vitreous enamel, and in older periods also inlays of cut gemstones, glass, and other materials. The resulting objects can also be called cloisonné

Enamel ,Champleve , Cloisonné .......its all the same thing
 
IF VB Sent you one just like that: " Then it aint broke ....dont fix it "---
 
Healey Nut said:
Cloisonné is an ancient technique for decorating metalwork objects, in recent centuries using vitreous enamel, and in older periods also inlays of cut gemstones, glass, and other materials. The resulting objects can also be called cloisonné

Enamel ,Champleve , Cloisonné .......its all the same thing
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No, it isn't:

"Champlevé is distinguished from the technique of cloisonné enamel in which the troughs are created by soldering flat metal strips to the surface of the object. The difference between the techniques is analogous to the woodworking techniques of intarsia and marquetry. It differs from the basse-taille technique, which succeeded it in the highest quality Gothic work, in that the bottoms of the recesses for the enamel are rough, and so only opaque enamel colours are used. In basse-taille the recesses are modelled, and translucent enamels are used, for more subtle effects, as in the 14th century Parisian Royal Gold Cup.[SUP]"[/SUP]
 
Bob_Spidell said:
No, it isn't:

"Champlevé is distinguished from the technique of cloisonné enamel in which the troughs are created by soldering flat metal strips to the surface of the object. The difference between the techniques is analogous to the woodworking techniques of intarsia and marquetry. It differs from the basse-taille technique, which succeeded it in the highest quality Gothic work, in that the bottoms of the recesses for the enamel are rough, and so only opaque enamel colours are used. In basse-taille the recesses are modelled, and translucent enamels are used, for more subtle effects, as in the 14th century Parisian Royal Gold Cup.[SUP]"[/SUP]
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Well if we're going to split hairs then Healey badges are no Champleve as they are just a piece of die pressed metal with enamel applied to the background which is Cloisonné
 
Healey Nut said:
Well if we're going to split hairs then Healey badges are no Champleve as they are just a piece of die pressed metal with enamel applied to the background which is Cloisonné
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Guess you didn't read cloissonne' is "... created by soldering flat metal strips to the surface of the object." Show me a Healey badge with the lettering soldered to the surface, and I'll buy it. I'll concede these badges are probably neither; as I always thought both were made by melting glass or a glaze to a patterned surface ('enamel' is just a type of paint).

You call it splitting hairs; I call it being precise. Guess it's the engineer--or the pedant--in me. By your reasoning, Weber, SU, Dellorto, Zenith, Rochester, Stromberg are all the same because they all mix fuel with air (otherwise, you're splitting hairs).
 
an opaque or semitransparent glassy substance applied to metallic or other hard surfaces for ornament or as a protective coating.
synonyms:coating, lacquer, varnish, glaze, finish"shiny red enamel"




Enamel ...is just a type of paint ..........not correct .....or maybe "I'm just being precise" must be the HVAC tech in me .
 
Healey Nut said:
an opaque or semitransparent glassy substance applied to metallic or other hard surfaces for ornament or as a protective coating.
synonyms:coating, lacquer, varnish, glaze, finish"shiny red enamel"



Enamel ...is just a type of paint ..........not correct .....or maybe "I'm just being precise" must be the HVAC tech in me .
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The wouldn't that actually be termed as taking it to a degree...?

I too had to do the google search when "Champlevé" came up, but you're not dragging me into this discussion (I've learned my lesson about arguing with Bob ;) ).
 
Vitreous enamel (not to be confused with enamel paint), also called porcelainenamel, is a material made by fusing powdered glass to a substrate by firing, usually between 750 and 850 °C (1,380 and 1,560 °F). The powder melts, flows, and then hardens to a smooth, durable vitreous coating on metal, or on glass or ceramics.
 
Healey Nut said:
an opaque or semitransparent glassy substance applied to metallic or other hard surfaces for ornament or as a protective coating.
synonyms:coating, lacquer, varnish, glaze, finish"shiny red enamel"


Enamel ...is just a type of paint ..........not correct .....or maybe "I'm just being precise" must be the HVAC tech in me .
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Thanks for the clarification; although Wikipedia considers varnish to be a type of paint (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint), as is lacquer ('Paints that dry by solvent evaporation and contain the solid binder dissolved in a solvent are known as lacquers). You didn't quote your source, but it appears to group all these coatings together, which is true enough in that they are all considered to be types of paint, which could be broadly construed to apply to any sort of coating applied with a brush or spray.

Besides pedantry, I have a more-than-passing interest in chemistry--majored in it for a couple years, and worked in a lab for several--and I still can't make sense of some of the definitions. It seems the term 'lacquer' describes a process more than a substance; by that definition spray-can enamel is technically a lacquer (which I always thought was the 'old school' type of paint, as in '23 coats of hand-rubbed lacquer'). Try as I might, I still don't understand all the types of paints although whilst painting our 100M I became interested in the subject and did quite a bit of research.

On a side note, am I the only Healeyphile that thinks the older badges--the 'flat' ones as on the 100s--are way cooler than the later, raised badges on the 6-cyl cars? Did any of the 6-cyl cars come with the flat badges? I can attest that the repop 'flat' badges are about 1/16" thinner than the originals.
 
nevets said:
Vitreous enamel (not to be confused with enamel paint), also called porcelainenamel, is a material made by fusing powdered glass to a substrate by firing, usually between 750 and 850 °C (1,380 and 1,560 °F). The powder melts, flows, and then hardens to a smooth, durable vitreous coating on metal, or on glass or ceramics.
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Thanks ... That clears up some confusion for me.
 
Bob I think the flat badges were used until the MKII moniker (oh geez, now I'm self conscious to use that term...) came into use. I know for sure that the 100/6 uses the same flat badge as the 100, and I will go out on a limb and say that the first generation of 3000s did too.

Just as there was never a factory labeled 100/4, there weren't any 3000 MKIs either ;)

And yes, another example of less is more; I like the early winged badges better too!
 
Vitreous enamel (not to be confused with enamel paint),

Great Nevets
I always thought it was glass on my MKIII-----:applause:
 
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