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For a broker/dealer/flipper, I agree; for someone who was engaged as an advocate for the seller, I disagree. I guess my ethics are just out of whack with the general public. So be it.
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For a broker/dealer/flipper, I agree; for someone who was engaged as an advocate for the seller, I disagree. I guess my ethics are just out of whack with the general public. So be it.
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Bob:
I understand your line of questioning, and the ethics involved. I am in agreement with you.. Could it be an age, era difference. ?? I have been involved with british cars since I drove a 70 MG midget as a student at Ohio State in the late 70'S. Have owned many Healeys, and Jaguars and dealt with many questionable blokes....will tip a brew to you 2nite after I go on a long ride in my 100.
Warmest regards:
Pete
I understand your line of questioning, and the ethics involved. I am in agreement with you.. Could it be an age, era difference. ?? I have been involved with british cars since I drove a 70 MG midget as a student at Ohio State in the late 70'S. Have owned many Healeys, and Jaguars and dealt with many questionable blokes....will tip a brew to you 2nite after I go on a long ride in my 100.
Warmest regards:
Pete
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Thanks, Pete. I'll tip a couple for you tonight 
I don't think it's an age/generation thing--we're mostly old farts here. My perspective was formed from my dad selling some of his treasures to disingenuous people--my dad's not naive, he was a factory/dealer rep for Ford for a few years (how he still has faith in his fellow man I don't know)--and how that hurt him. OTOH, we had a seller lower his asking price for a 100 when Dad told him it was for me--how often does that happen?!--and they became fast friends until the seller died a few years ago. And the car? Turns out it was a factory 100M, and Dad and I restored it over 10 years or so. Those events are, of course, priceless. If the seller of the car in question wasn't informed of the potential value of her late husband's treasure, and she finds out later--and that usually happens, sooner or later--how will she feel?
I'm reminded of the episode of 'Chasing Classic Cars' where Wayne Carini was asked to help dispose of a widow's pristine 100M. Carini's mechanic got the car in top running shape and they took it to auction (Carini seems to prefer auctions to private sales). The man's widow and children were all there to see their father's pride-and-joy fetch a good price--I thought it was a bit low--and Carini got his finder's fee (I'm guessing 10% or so). Good vibes all around.
I'm sure people who have been 'horse trading' cars for years have a different perspective.
I don't think it's an age/generation thing--we're mostly old farts here. My perspective was formed from my dad selling some of his treasures to disingenuous people--my dad's not naive, he was a factory/dealer rep for Ford for a few years (how he still has faith in his fellow man I don't know)--and how that hurt him. OTOH, we had a seller lower his asking price for a 100 when Dad told him it was for me--how often does that happen?!--and they became fast friends until the seller died a few years ago. And the car? Turns out it was a factory 100M, and Dad and I restored it over 10 years or so. Those events are, of course, priceless. If the seller of the car in question wasn't informed of the potential value of her late husband's treasure, and she finds out later--and that usually happens, sooner or later--how will she feel?
I'm reminded of the episode of 'Chasing Classic Cars' where Wayne Carini was asked to help dispose of a widow's pristine 100M. Carini's mechanic got the car in top running shape and they took it to auction (Carini seems to prefer auctions to private sales). The man's widow and children were all there to see their father's pride-and-joy fetch a good price--I thought it was a bit low--and Carini got his finder's fee (I'm guessing 10% or so). Good vibes all around.
I'm sure people who have been 'horse trading' cars for years have a different perspective.
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Opinions, by definition, are neither correct nor incorrect. But, yeah, my opinion is the seller should have been informed of the potential value of the car in this particular situation.
I lost my halo a long time ago.
Well, picked up the car and the seller finally admitted that some of the engine parts were stored next to the washing machine and rusted so bad they threw them away. Just the :
Crankshaft, cam, cylinder head, and she could not remember anything else. So a little deception on her part.
The dash with all the gauges is also missing. So I have an engine block, no internals.
It will take me about a year to finish my current project so I will have time to search for the missing parts. Now to clean out a space in the barn for all this stuff.
Jerry
Crankshaft, cam, cylinder head, and she could not remember anything else. So a little deception on her part.
The dash with all the gauges is also missing. So I have an engine block, no internals.
It will take me about a year to finish my current project so I will have time to search for the missing parts. Now to clean out a space in the barn for all this stuff. Jerry
Brinkerhoff
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The happy ending would be: if you lived in northern Michigan , I could give you a sweet deal on the extra crankshaft, cam , cylinder head and all the other internals that I have left over for a 3000 engine ! Regardless of what you paid , it went to a good home.