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For Sale, NOJ 391

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How about this?

NOJ 391 So far at a bargain price of £5700, but I don't think that'll last long!
 
Bought off ebay..for a tidy sum I imagine!!!
 
HHHmmm, well, according to Bill Emerson's Healey book (which has recent photos) NOJ 391 was converted to 100S spec, hence has an oval grille in the photos, and was sold to the US in 1955 and stayed there. It was raced until 66 and remains in the US in 1966 condition.

It was in the 54 Mille Miglia as OON 440, which could mean that NOJ 391 was put on a different car - the factory did have a tendency to 'recycle' registrations! and when the original car went to the states the reg would be left behind....

The chassis number plate in the Ebay ad is correct for NOJ 391.

So I don't know what it is! It could be a works car that inherited the reg...or not, but it would seem that it isn't the NOJ 391 that nearly raced at LeMans but got dunched on the way back from scrutineering!
 
Because of the Le Mans shunt I understand there are stories of the original car being bitsad out to a new chassis donor as it had already gotten through French scrutineering--if the first chassis survived there could indeed be two more or less legitimate NOJ 391s? discuss.....
 
Isn't 5700 pounds about the right amount for scam auctions? The quick exit also suggests that someone sniffed it out and reported it to eBay.
 
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Sounds fishy.... a very low price and a very fast sale is commonly a scammer's ploy.
 
I do agree the price is low, it could be pulled because of a fast sale or because it was marked as a scam, but the fast sale could have been for big bucks too. Someone on the Healey e-mail list said the chassis number show is correct, so if a scammer a relatively sophisticated one.
 
glemon said:
I do agree the price is low, it could be pulled because of a fast sale or because it was marked as a scam, but the fast sale could have been for big bucks too. Someone on the Healey e-mail list said the chassis number show is correct, so if a scammer a relatively sophisticated one.
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And clearly with some knowledge of Healeys, take the wire wheel swap for example.

Of course, that description could've been glean'd in its entirety too...
 
Kinda reminds me of the story about Christies Auction House and the 1939 Auto Union Type D racing car. They ended up pulling it the week of the sale since there was a legitimate rumor that the chassis wasn't the one that was raced in the 1938 Grand Prix.
 
Guys, just came across this forum whilst searching info on the Healey that was offered on ebay. Does anyone know anything more about the Le-Mans Healey 100 , NOJ391 ? I went to see that car on the 1st day of the ebay auction and had a really good look around it, but then it disappeared from ebay and when I contacted the seller again by email he said he had removed it because it had already been sold :frown: and wouldn’t give me any more information than that - I was so disappointed. Well - It would be nice to know where it went – anyone here know anymore about it ? There was one couple waiting in silver Audi to view the car after me but there could have been more. I think it’s crazy that ebay allows people to list items and then accepts that they can withdraw those items without good reason – I thought it was supposed to be a fair auction.
 
The reason they can withdraw an item is, they own it! It would be illegal for anyone to "lock" you in to a mandatory sale. I know it's disappointing at times when you get interested in an item and then it's pulled from the list. If you put yourself in the sellers shoes, would you want to have someone tell you that you have to leave it listed, even if you changed your mind about selling? Probably not.
Example, I listed a large trailer once, three days later I had a months work for it. I pulled it from the list. Two months later, I re-listed it for sale and sold it for more than it was originally listed for. Such is life. Was the car a scam? Who knows. I wouldn't condemn the seller unless there's proof of such a thing and the full circumstances are known. Those things usually come to light sooner or later.
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Well I guess you are right - just it was a bit disappointing for me. To answer your question, no the car was not a scam - and the user had a good reputation with many feedback scores - so he would not want to mess that up... I'm sure. I am just curious how much it was sold for and to which Country. I know the chance is missed now thought. I did actually offer the guy a substantial amount of money myself, so I am surprised that he never cam back to haggle with me. He must have had an offer that was beyond his dreams. So - I can say that at least it was a genuine sale and the car was as described except it was in a different state when i viewed it, the trim was completely removed and so was most of the paint, just revieling the bare aluminum panels -it was also a countryside surrounding and not an estate where photographed ...hmmmm ? my thoughts are that it was actually photographed some time before the ebay listing. The old pale brown log book was also there and matched the cars identity and had a short string of owners beginning with the Healey factory address. For sure - this was the chance of a lifetime - and good old me lost it :frown: ! - well, such is life...... so I gather that it's better to keep laughing....then I will have more years to find something special!
 
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