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Felt Oil Filter, BJ8 [Crosland Replacements]

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I was going to change my oil this weekend along with replacing my lower radiator hose. Well the replacement of the hose was a big project for me, climbing the learning curve and all. Needless to say I did not get to the oil change. I had posted about reusing the oil pan drain plug gasket or washer last week.

I've got another question? It turns out that Crosland is not making the felt oil filters for the old style cannister filter units. I have two of the replacement elements from the India manufacturer. One from Moss and one from British Victoria. I have heard horror stories about the quality of these "replacements". They appear to be OK by sight.So What is the truth about these; oil filter, felt supplied by others as Moss states it?

British Car Specialists says use the Crosland paper unit and Healey Surgeons sells the oil filter, felt suppied by others. I hope I am not opening up a "can of worms' or stirring the pot by asking this? I am not against using a suitable replacent as supplied by others if it is fit for service.
 
Frankly I think your best bet is to purchase a spin on filter adapter from Moss and use a K & N filter. The K & N filter, some others too, have a valve that stops the oil from draining out of the filter when the engine is turned off. Keeping oil in the filter is important as the oil will then reach the bearings, etc. sooner on start up.
If you use the original canister, I would go with the paper filter. I have heard that felt filters might allow small pieces of the felt to get into the oil, thereby causing problems if it reaches the bearings, rings, etc. I don't know if that happens. Maybe just rumors.
 
Hi jjbank, The India made felt oil filters will garbage up the engine. IMOP your best bet at the moment is to go with the WIX Paper type part # 51302. There is a very good felt item available from OZ manufactured under the name of GUD part # G 206. Hard to locate though. ---Fwiw--Keoke.
 
Thank You guys for your replies but I find the felt filter situation worrisome. If the replacement types are not able to withstand the duty why are reputable British car parts suppliers supplying them as acceptable? I can't imagine they are doing so knowing they are junk. Does anybody know of any instances where these replacements have been in service and problem occurred?

1. Filter fell apart or deteriorated with filter felt plugging oil passages or ending up in the oil sump?

2. Low oil pressure results when using replacement felt filters because of collapse etc.

I have been using the Crosland felt filter for 10 years and have not noticed any negative effects but I only drive my car at most 1000 miles/year.
 
The Cross land felt filter is not the India made things the suppliers are currently supplying, The GUD felt filter from the UK or OZ is even of higher quality than the cross land. Yes engine failures have been discussed on the Triumph forums here caused by the cheap replacement Felt Filter.---Fwiw--Keoke
 
jjbank,

I have a new Crossland felt filter (for BJ8) that you'd be welcome to. I've switched to the paper and have no intention of going back to felt. I'd be happy to drop it in the mail, just PM me your address.
 
I have been worried about using the Crosland paper filter. Dave, you say you use paper, I am assuming Crosland's and you have no problems? You change your oil & filter regularly? I'll change to paper if it's fit for service. Can I buy the Crosland paper element from Moss or British Victoria? What about the WIX element Keoke recommended? What is the source?

Dave, I thank you for your offer but I'll go with the best available technology in keeping with the flow through cannister style filter and that apparently is the paper element. In other words,taking you up on your Crosland felt filter offer would only delay the switch that I have to make now or later.

And you spin-on supporters, I know the ease of use but for the present I want to keep the cannister filter.
 
Sometimes we can not see the forest for the trees. At this point in time only a very few British import cars here in the US use anything but a paper filter element. In spite of the fact that some 10 or more early British car models used this same felt filter as used on the Healey. Paper type filters are used in aircleaners,Fuel filters and most widely in oil filters. Here in the US paper oil filters have enjoyed not less than a century of development and improvement. WIX is an old experienced American oil filter manufacturer and their product can be sourced directly from WIX as well as from high end auto parts stores.---Fwiw--Keoke
 
With the changes in oil formulations since our car engines were designed there is good reason to use a modern oil filter. Get rid of felt. Discussed many times on this forum.
 
Stretch said:
With the changes in oil formulations since our car engines were designed there is good reason to use a modern oil filter. Get rid of felt. Discussed many times on this forum.
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Well Stretch, they are not going to give me much choice in the future but I am stocked fairly well for now and backed up With the WIX 51302 unit as well. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

However, we better be using what is left of the older engine oil formulations or we just may end up with a worn engine. That has also been discussed all over the Internet.--- /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif----Keoke
 
Can anyone provide a comparison of the micron rating of felt filters vs. today's high efficiency paper filters. Some time ago I read that spiral wound and felt filters of 60's vintage had a tendency to develop a "tunneling" effect that resulted in passing larger particles over time. Modern oils are designed to keep particulate in solution for filters to catch. If felt compares with modern filters and holds up over time then felt is good. Bottom line is to use a filter designed for the oil you use.
 
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