EFI for you Doug

[Morris]

Have you seen this Doug? I think this maybe the best possible solution for your EFI project.

https://www.canems.co.uk/siameseports.php

You could do this with a Megasquirt and save a few hundred bucks but at the cost of many more hours of work and frustration.

 

[twas_brillig]

Intersting (confusing as heck also!); I've just dropped an e-mail to Canems, asking them for a parts list and cost to convert a stock 1275 to their system, and approval to post whatever they send me on this site.
And how in heck did you find the siameseports portion of the web-site? I couldn't!
DOug

 

[twas_brillig]

Canems was good enough to suggest a web-site (Canadian chap!)covering the conversion of a 1380cc A series in a fwd Mini Moke to their fuel injection. Here's the list of bits & pieces and summary of what the owner did:

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My Parts List (prices may not be current)

Parts supplied by Canems:

* Canems injection ECU, software and manual - £395.00
* Basic wiring loom - £49.95
* 2X narrow band, heated, lambda sensor c/w stainless boss and bung - £34.90 (can be done with only one sensor)
* Throttle position sensor (Jenvey compatible) c/w connector - £43.70
* Coolant sensor c/w connector - £17.90
* Inertia cut-off switch - £49.95
* Coil pack c/w connector - £55.20
* Custom made HT leads - £29.95
* Crank sensor connector (compatible with KAD sensor) - £2.95
* 2 x Fuel injector connectors - £5.90
* 4 way fuse box & fuses
* 30 Amp + main relay

Parts supplied by Jenvey:
* Jenvey DCOE-style throttle body (part number TBS42i) ~ approx. £200 (or use Kawasaki throttle bodies)
* Fuel pressure regulator and housing ~ approx £69.00
* Weber DCOE to A-series SHORT inlet manifold (or make your own)

Parts supplied by KAD Engineering:
* 36-1 trigger wheel kit (bolts on to existing crankshaft pulley) c/w sensor ~ approx. £120

Other parts required (obtained locally):
* High pressure fuel pump, c/w pre filter ~ approx. £85
* 2X 550 cc/min fuel injectors ~ approx £140 for pair.
* Injection quality fuel hosing
* Resistor-type spark plugs must be used (recommend NGK BPR6ES) ~ approx £8
* LCB exhaust manifold (optional but it must be a separate exhaust manifold not connected to the inlet manifold)


Installation - Main Points of Setup (My engine was already out, but can be done with engine in situ)

* Inlet and exhaust manifolds with lambda sensors, bosses brazed at a convenient spot low down
* Fuel pump and filter.
* Throttle bodies and connect fuel rail, injectors, throttle cable, MAP sensor, throttle position sensor.
* Fuel pressure regulator and all high pressure hoses (note a return line is necessary - I used one fuel tank breather for point of entry and left the remaining 3 breathers)
* Crank trigger wheel and sensor
* Coil pack and spark plug wires
* Canems ECU with harness through bulkhead
* All wiring (see diagram below)
* Using a laptop computer, install software and transfer sample setting to ECU
* Fire 'er up!

 

[twas_brillig]

I added up his prices (and adjusted the totals for any revised prices I could find) and came up with the following:
Canems parts: 724 pounds $ 1180 Cdn; $ 1145 US
Jenvey parts: 270 pounds 440 Cdn; 426 US
KAD Engineering: 120 pounds 195 Cdn; 190 US
Other: 233 pounds 380 Cdn; 370 US
Total: 1347 pounds $ 2200 Cdn; $ 2130 US

Current price of the "Canems injection ECU, software and manual" included in the above is 430 pounds ($ 680 US; $ 700 Cdn) and it sure adds up in a hurry after that!

Doug

 

[Morris]

I think you can do it for a lot less than that Doug. For example, the trigger wheel and inertia switch can be pulled from an old Ford Escort. Jegs sells a high pressure fuel pump for $80. All of the sensors are pretty generic items that can probably be sourced locally at a great savings. Also, you said you wanted to adapt your current DCOE and manifold. So that's going to save a you quite a few dollars over the Jenvey TB.

 

[twas_brillig]

Can you advise as to how good a match the Escort trigger wheel would be to the A series? And I'm going out for beer and pizza with the local Olde Owners of Anciente BMWs (ie 2002s) tonight and hopefully a chap who has megasquirted his '02 will be along - figured I'd print off the Canems info from above and we'll step through choices.
Doug