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I know that overdrive fetches a premium, but look at the price of this baby skyrocket! As a TR-250 owner, all I can say is WOOHOO! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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JamesWilson
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Think of the price as "appreciation" in both financial and automotive senses.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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He states in his Q/A that the reserve is in excess of $20K. I suspect bidding below $20K has been a little generous in light of that fact.
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I wonnder... what if he decides to lower his reserve and catch a few people that thought they were "safe"??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
He states in his Q/A that the reserve is in excess of $20K. I suspect bidding below $20K has been a little generous in light of that fact.
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I wonnder... what if he decides to lower his reserve and catch a few people that thought they were "safe"??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Kurtis
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He states in his Q/A that the reserve is in excess of $20K. I suspect bidding below $20K has been a little generous in light of that fact.
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I wonnder... what if he decides to lower his reserve and catch a few people that thought they were "safe"??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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When you lower your reserve to a point below a bid that didn't previously meet the reserve, eBay gives that bidder the option to retract his bid.
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He states in his Q/A that the reserve is in excess of $20K. I suspect bidding below $20K has been a little generous in light of that fact.
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I wonnder... what if he decides to lower his reserve and catch a few people that thought they were "safe"??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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When you lower your reserve to a point below a bid that didn't previously meet the reserve, eBay gives that bidder the option to retract his bid.
I think its almost insane. The body wasn't removed, so has the frame been inspected? The color isn't original, although its nice. The diff was "inspected" and the OD "works". For 20k+ he won't replace a couple of $1.00 light bulbs? For that money I would expect a perfect car.
I remember when TR-250s were the least desirable TR, especially with the rostyle wheel covers. Now they seem to be the most desirable. I really like them with the wires, which aren't correct for the US.
I remember when TR-250s were the least desirable TR, especially with the rostyle wheel covers. Now they seem to be the most desirable. I really like them with the wires, which aren't correct for the US.
I think the market has decided that the TR-250 is the best combination of classic body style and sheer grunt. Might not be totally accurate, but when I was researching the models prior to my TR4A that was certainly the impression the clubs and online resources pushed me to.
If you buy into that, then they are worth a premium on top of a TR-6 and good Tr-6's seem to be trading in the mid to high teens now.
Of course, all of this could be completely delusional...
If you buy into that, then they are worth a premium on top of a TR-6 and good Tr-6's seem to be trading in the mid to high teens now.
Of course, all of this could be completely delusional...
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The ebay market is a great reference but at times pretty schizophrenic. About 2 months or so ago, a very nice TR250 showed up with a buy it now price of I think ~$12K. Was bid for quite a while before someone pulled the trigger. At least from the the ebay listing, it was every bit as good or better than this one imo.
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I really like them with the wires, which aren't correct for the US.
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Wires were an option for the U.S. on the TR-250, and I recall that several of the reference books show photos of cars being delivered to the U.S. with wires. So, they are correct as long as they have the octagonal knock-offs.
I have to agree with the general perception of the TR-250 in the market, but of course I'm biased. When I started looking, it was very hard to find a car at a reasonable price, and when we heard of one, it was usually gone by the time we called about it. We found our car and got it for a really great price.
One other thing to note is that this car has overdrive, a *very* rare feature on a TR-250. Even if it hasn't been taken apart and refurbished (which it may well have been -- the ebay description doesn't say), it would in my view still fetch a premium, even for a car with flaws. I'd estimate (ok, guess) that OD on a 250 in reasonable shape would push the price up by $3000 to $5000, which would make the price of this car right on target.
Anyway, I repeat that I'm pleased. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif And it *is* a great color. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
I really like them with the wires, which aren't correct for the US.
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Wires were an option for the U.S. on the TR-250, and I recall that several of the reference books show photos of cars being delivered to the U.S. with wires. So, they are correct as long as they have the octagonal knock-offs.
I have to agree with the general perception of the TR-250 in the market, but of course I'm biased. When I started looking, it was very hard to find a car at a reasonable price, and when we heard of one, it was usually gone by the time we called about it. We found our car and got it for a really great price.
One other thing to note is that this car has overdrive, a *very* rare feature on a TR-250. Even if it hasn't been taken apart and refurbished (which it may well have been -- the ebay description doesn't say), it would in my view still fetch a premium, even for a car with flaws. I'd estimate (ok, guess) that OD on a 250 in reasonable shape would push the price up by $3000 to $5000, which would make the price of this car right on target.
Anyway, I repeat that I'm pleased. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif And it *is* a great color. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
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As much as I like these cars, the cynic in me worries a wee bit about this one. One thing that really bothers me is not that the colors have been changed (although I'd much prefer the white/red combo), but that the commission number plate is a replacement, with wildly incorrect font (is it even stamped?) and showing the paint and trim codes (more or less) as they are currently rather than the Paint 19 and Trim 12 as it would've shown originally. Guess that just makes me a bit suspicious about what else is, uh, different.
Considering how much metal was replaced (hey, the seller's at least pretty honest about that), I also wonder why it didn't get a complete "body off" restoration.
Finally, I am slowly coming to realize that originality doesn't seem to mean as much for value as it used to. But I'd want a more nearly original and "correct" car for this kind of money....
Considering how much metal was replaced (hey, the seller's at least pretty honest about that), I also wonder why it didn't get a complete "body off" restoration.
Finally, I am slowly coming to realize that originality doesn't seem to mean as much for value as it used to. But I'd want a more nearly original and "correct" car for this kind of money....
Kurtis
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The ebay market is a great reference but at times pretty schizophrenic. About 2 months or so ago, a very nice TR250 showed up with a buy it now price of I think ~$12K. Was bid for quite a while before someone pulled the trigger. At least from the the ebay listing, it was every bit as good or better than this one imo.
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Well... as I implied earlier, I really don't think any of the higher bids on the car are legitimate. I believe that knowing that he reserve is set higher than $20K has allowed a few bidders to get a little "crazy" with their bidding.
Time will tell, but I would be surprised if $20K is topped.
The ebay market is a great reference but at times pretty schizophrenic. About 2 months or so ago, a very nice TR250 showed up with a buy it now price of I think ~$12K. Was bid for quite a while before someone pulled the trigger. At least from the the ebay listing, it was every bit as good or better than this one imo.
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Well... as I implied earlier, I really don't think any of the higher bids on the car are legitimate. I believe that knowing that he reserve is set higher than $20K has allowed a few bidders to get a little "crazy" with their bidding.
Time will tell, but I would be surprised if $20K is topped.
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Heh ,heh I 've got to show this one to wife. "See honey it really is something worth spending all that time and money on... "
I converted my TR250 from steelies to wires. The fake rostyles (with five fake lug nuts fer cryin' out loud) are absurd. IMHO.
Heh ,heh I 've got to show this one to wife. "See honey it really is something worth spending all that time and money on... "
I converted my TR250 from steelies to wires. The fake rostyles (with five fake lug nuts fer cryin' out loud) are absurd. IMHO.
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One thing that really bothers me is not that the colors have been changed
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I'm starting to gather that a lot of people consider this a big deal in the Triumph world. Perhaps it's because the original information is included on the comm. plate. Although I have no skin in this game other than enjoying the price, I have often pondered the issue of original color. One thing to bear in mind is that in the AACA (rather than in the single marque clubs), the only issue about color is whether the paint combination is one you *could* have ordered when the car was new. Thus, there are a lot of folks (myself included) in the old car business who don't care what color it was when it left the factory. So, just remember that to many people this isn't a consideration. Also, for the record, my Healey was black when it left the factory. *yawn*
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but that the commission number plate is a replacement, with wildly incorrect font (is it even stamped?) and showing the paint and trim codes (more or less) as they are currently rather than the Paint 19 and Trim 12 as it would've shown originally.
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I agree with you there. I agree. Sometimes you have to change a comm. plate when they're bent, lost, broken, blemished, but it should *always* reflect the car. I'm also not a big fan of non-original carbs, and the top isn't correct as it lacks the reflective stripes.
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Considering how much metal was replaced (hey, the seller's at least pretty honest about that), I also wonder why it didn't get a complete "body off" restoration.
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Again, I agree with you. Seems like a lot of effort has been expended -- why not go the extra mile?
Anyway, still happy about the price. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
One thing that really bothers me is not that the colors have been changed
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I'm starting to gather that a lot of people consider this a big deal in the Triumph world. Perhaps it's because the original information is included on the comm. plate. Although I have no skin in this game other than enjoying the price, I have often pondered the issue of original color. One thing to bear in mind is that in the AACA (rather than in the single marque clubs), the only issue about color is whether the paint combination is one you *could* have ordered when the car was new. Thus, there are a lot of folks (myself included) in the old car business who don't care what color it was when it left the factory. So, just remember that to many people this isn't a consideration. Also, for the record, my Healey was black when it left the factory. *yawn*
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but that the commission number plate is a replacement, with wildly incorrect font (is it even stamped?) and showing the paint and trim codes (more or less) as they are currently rather than the Paint 19 and Trim 12 as it would've shown originally.
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I agree with you there. I agree. Sometimes you have to change a comm. plate when they're bent, lost, broken, blemished, but it should *always* reflect the car. I'm also not a big fan of non-original carbs, and the top isn't correct as it lacks the reflective stripes.
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Considering how much metal was replaced (hey, the seller's at least pretty honest about that), I also wonder why it didn't get a complete "body off" restoration.
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Again, I agree with you. Seems like a lot of effort has been expended -- why not go the extra mile?
Anyway, still happy about the price. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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