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Crap Tires and other goodies from China

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angelfj1

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How to you feel about these [edited] tires and other crap that is being dumped on our shores by china??? They used to say, "buyer beware", but as I see it, there is no easy way to be sure what you are buying. Doesn't our system of government have an obligation to protect us from this practice? Now we learn that the chinese are using formaldehyde, illegal dyes, and industrial wax to make candy, pickles, crackers and seafood.

Does anyone care? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
 
Yes, I understand. I guess I was avoiding the issue with below par chinese goods, until it touched my favorite hobby and love for all things automotive. You just can't skimp with something as critical as tires.

Regards,

Frank
 
This subject does tie in with a recent thread on litigation. For all the belly aching about lawyers/lawsuits/outragious settlements, etc., I think lawsuits or the threats of lawsuits (along with government regulation) keeps the pressure to develop and deliver safer products (think Firestone). Perhaps all the Chinese products need to go through US companies/brokers that hold the foreign companies accountable for any problems that arise. This would also help 'level out' the playing field for US companies trying to compete with the Chinese imports. Anyway, just a random thought, perhaps naive about the problem since I don't pretend to have any expertise in law, trade or the price of tea in china. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Now where's that lawguy when you need him??
 
I do my best to avoid China made products even if it means more money out of my pocket. If I really need something, and I can only find that item as a "Made in China" product I will shop around for months to find something made in a place I find acceptable.

The thing I hate is buying something that does not state country of origin in the description. This mostly happens with internet transactions though.
 
Lawguy checking in....

I'm not a fan of sub-par goods whether they come from Beijing or Akron. Granted, the problems with Chinese goods have been in the news lately, rightfully so.

This is an example where lawsuits can be of use. I cannot speak for every state, but where I practice, a product liability suit must be brought against the manufacturer if possible. If jurisdiction cannot be obtained over the manufacturer (which would be a problem with Chinese companies), then the suit is brought against whoever in the chain of distribution jurisdiction can attach to. This forces, in theory, if not practice, all members in the retail chain to ensure the quality of their goods. The "don't blame it on us, blame the Chinese manufacturer" defense will not work unless a suit can actually be brought against the manufacturer.

As for government regulation, there is plenty of regulation already. The question is one of enforcement.
- the Dept. of Agriculture has regulations against adulterated pet food.
- the CPSC and EPA have regulations against lead paint
- the U.S. Dept. of Transportation regulated tires for highway use.

Now- the inspection and enforcement may need work, but the regulation is there.
 
lawguy, what can we expect when less then 1% of all goods sent to our country from china is inspected at all, yep that includes food products, wonder how that got by? money im sure had nuthin to do with it. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/sick.gif
 
Just noticed the recall list of the tires; Westlake is on the list, and 5 are on my BGT. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif
Although the specific tire sizes recalled do not include mine, I now have zero faith and will eat up the cost for better and learn a lesson.
 
angelfj said:
Now we learn that the chinese are using formaldehyde, illegal dyes, and industrial wax to make candy, pickles, crackers and seafood.

Does anyone care? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
Click to expand...

Whatever you do, don't eat their tires!
 
goodness gracious! they'd be awfully tough without the gummi strip in them!
 
heh... I ~think~ I might remember that... Didn't Radar try to send one home piece by piece?


back to the seriousness of the topic though:

https://www.wklawyer.com/tirerecall/pressreleases/press.html

Seems the Chinese manufacturer of the tire in question also made tires sold under other brands...
 
The Brands are:
Westlake
Compass
Telluride
YKS

Like I said, my Westlake tires are useless, even though they're not a listed size.
$10 each, anyone? Still got the sticker on...anyone?
 
mmmmmmm.... pass... NEXT! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif
 
Just heard on TV this evening they say no recall they can not afford it.
 
and getting more and more infamous for it as time passes!
 
My son came home from a birthday party with a goodie bag - you know the kind - full of candy and little toys. His favorite thing was this little rubber skull with a creepy looking eyeball inside it. Squeeze the skull and the eyeball pops out of the socket. Great stuff if you're an 8yr old.

I picked it up and noticed it had a really foul odor - it's filled with KEROSENE. It mysteriously dissapeared that night. I noticed this about a week later: https://acknak.blogspot.com/2007/06/innovation-kerosene-filled-eyeball-toys.html
 
Just to add my two shekels ...

The Chinese tire manufacturer never sold those tires in the USA. The tires were bought on contract by Foreign Tire Sales of Union, New Jersey. I believe it's a relatively small company, which asked the feds to recall all the tires. Feds said Foreign Tire Sales is liable, not the Chinese manufacturer, under our laws.

Under USA law, the importer is responsible for selling defective tires. American drivers didn't buy the tires from the Chinese company; the American importer did. Thus the Chinese company isn't liable for damages in the USA.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/business/worldbusiness/26tire.html


Ya know ... how 'bout we just stop buying Chinese products? Tell the stores we need proof of source. If the source is hidden, or is China, maybe we should just walk away and do without as much as possible. If we keep buying the stuff cuz it's cheap, we have more stuff, and more worries.

If we all stopped, we could shut the whole thing down in a week. Check this out:

https://www.rense.com/general69/madeinchina.htm

Tom
 
sounds easy enough. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

with all the stuff in the news lately, the potential temptation to buy one of the "new" MGs (if they ever make it here) no longer exists...
 
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