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AltaKnight

AltaKnight

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There's a lot of road work going on close to my home and I was "patiently" waiting for the traffic control lady to change her stop sign so I could continue; when she waved me through I depressed the clutch pedal, stuck it in gear and started letting out the clutch when BAM, the plastic hydraulic hose let go dumping the clutch, squeeling the tires and causing me to turn and look accusingly at the pickup truck behind who I was sure had just rearended me. Made it home in first gear praying nobody would get in the way and force me to stop.
So I've stuck a new plastic hose in and it works fine, but I'm thinking of getting one of those braided hoses. I don't like the way the plastic hose is connected to the fittings, it's just pushed on.
Are the braided hoses worth the extra money?
 
AltaKnight said:
BAM, the plastic hydraulic hose let go dumping the clutch, squeeling the tires and causing me to turn and look accusingly at the pickup truck behind who I was sure had just rearended me. Made it home in first gear praying nobody would get in the way and force me to stop....................
Are the braided hoses worth the extra money?
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I think you answered your own question! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

My answer: Yes. Without a doubt they are worth it. I make all my own hoses, and that holds the cost down.
Jeff
 
No need, IMO, as next time it will be the seal or the taper pin that fails. Just learn to drive without a clutch. It's not that hard, and has gotten me home several times; even on cars with cable-operated clutches (broken cable) and once where a bad TOB tore off the pressure plate fingers.
 
Remember back when Crypty went missing for
a few weeks? When the little plastic clutch
hose blew out at night and Crypty stuttered
to halt in some unlit, rundown neighborhood?

I'm happy to report the braided stainless steel
replacement hose is well worth the small additional
cost for peace of mind.

d
 
TR3driver said:
... Just learn to drive without a clutch. It's not that hard, ...
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Actually, clutch is mispelled. The "L" should be an "R". /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif

The first time I showed my son how to shift without the crutch, his jaw dropped to the ground. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif He has the ability to do it now. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/driving.gif
 
Yeah the tire squeel sure got her attention as I flashed by.
Shifting sans clutch is fine, just a bit of rev matching needed.
The tricky bit is the starting and stopping; it's sure hard on the starter getting going in 1st gear.
 
Bugeye58 said:
AltaKnight said:
BAM, the plastic hydraulic hose let go dumping the clutch, squeeling the tires and causing me to turn and look accusingly at the pickup truck behind who I was sure had just rearended me. Made it home in first gear praying nobody would get in the way and force me to stop....................
Are the braided hoses worth the extra money?
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I think you answered your own question! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

My answer: Yes. Without a doubt they are worth it. I make all my own hoses, and that holds the cost down.
Jeff
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I changed my line to a braided line sometime back and had to change it again. The braiding had started to cut the frame and itself began to come undone. Those stainless steel braids will slice through most anything, especially rubber hoses or wire looms. I ended up installing a new braided line and then wrapped the whole shebang with one of those nylon split looms made for wires. So, now I have a hose, protected by a steel casing, protected by a nylon wrap.
 
Bill, a couple of Adel clamps and a standoff or two, and the hose wouldn't be rubbing on anything to start with. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
Jeff
 
Bugeye58 said:
Bill, a couple of Adel clamps and a standoff or two, and the hose wouldn't be rubbing on anything to start with. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
Jeff
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Well, I not only have the usual parts in that area but a rubber dump line into my pan from the oil separator, two braided oil cooler lines and some wiring from my electric fan. Kinda crowded down there.
 
I was only poking a bit of fun, Bill. Another alternative to prevent chafing is fire sleeve. It comes in all sizes to accomodate the hose you want to protect. I've also slid a piece of thickwall vinyl tubing over the hose prior to installing the last fitting.
Jeff
 
Bill,

I've read your comment and those of others about how sharp the braided hoses are and I must have got a defective one. Mine is as smooth on the outside as the plastic and it has no snags or roughness to it at all. I was careful installing it and when I got done, I ran my hand over it without thinking. I thought about the previous warnings at the last second and thought that I would have cut myself, but it is perfectly smooth.

I bought mine from Moss about 6 months ago. Maybe they fixed this problem?
 
Paul, is the line rubbing against that Fram(soon to be upgraded to Napa Gold, or Wix for product improvement) filter? If so, might want to wrap some vinyl or take a tube of silicone sealant, when the filter is off, go over the line where it would be contacting the filter, coat the line, let it dry and install a good,(No, make that BETTER) oil filter.
 
Paul, is the line rubbing against that Fram(soon to be upgraded to Napa Gold, or Wix for product improvement) filter? If so, might want to wrap some vinyl or take a tube of silicone sealant, when the filter is off, go over the line where it would be contacting the filter, coat the line, let it dry and install a good,(No, make that BETTER) oil filter.
 
RonMacPherson said:
Paul, is the line rubbing against that Fram(soon to be upgraded to Napa Gold, or Wix for product improvement) filter? If so, might want to wrap some vinyl or take a tube of silicone sealant, when the filter is off, go over the line where it would be contacting the filter, coat the line, let it dry and install a good,(No, make that BETTER) oil filter.
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I don't want to open a can of worms here but, what is wrong with Fram filters? I have been using them for years with no problem, but that does not mean anything as we all know.
 
Ron,

I change the oil about every 2,000 miles, so I don't think that having the Fram will hurt me. I've been using them for about two years after using the AC Delco cannister units.

The line actually has about an 1.0" clearance that you can't see from this angle.

I'll upgrade to the Wix after the last three filters from my case are gone. That will probably be about the time that I swap the head for my rebuilt unit.
 
Having seen Paul's website and how he keeps his car up, the paint wont even get scuffed on an oil filter by the hose before it gets changed. I think he's got everything under control.
 
The second page of this thread made my night.
 
Paul.....
I'm impressed by the picture. How the heck do you keep the underside of your car looking clean like that and is it healthy; after all a liberal coating of hydrocarbons down there is the natural Triumph anti-rust coating.
 
Yeah I know, the underside of my TR6 looks nothing like that!
 
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