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Cleaning Wire Wheels Part II
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Do they sell any wheel-cleaning product(s) now? What are they considering "state of the art"? Hope it's not a rag and dish-washing detergent... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
John Loftus
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Seems like water would pool in the spoke nipples regardless if it was from rinsing wheel cleaner or dish washing soap. Perhaps it is the stronger chemicals used for chrome cleaning that get down in the threads that start the rust forming. What about using a thin clear silicone (there is one for windshield sealing that is flowable) around each spoke nipple opening to solve the problem?
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John
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John
anthony7777
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john,the chrome wire wheels are beautiful but when they start to rust they realy look like dogy pooh pooh in a hurry,id rather have faded painted wheels then slightly rusted chrome ones,since i recently purchase a new set of daytons that have not yet been put on the car id like to do whatever i can to keep the rust from starting,the clear sealer you mentioned,do you suggest applying it from inside the wheel(top of nipple and threads) or squeezing it up inside from the outside,do you think one method is better then the other? once in a while spraying the entire wheel with a wd 40 type lube would help? sounds like ill be air drying these things everytime i drive in the rain as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
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john,the chrome wire wheels are beautiful but when they start to rust they realy look like dogy pooh pooh in a hurry,id rather have faded painted wheels then slightly rusted chrome ones,since i recently purchase a new set of daytons that have not yet been put on the car id like to do whatever i can to keep the rust from starting,the clear sealer you mentioned,do you suggest applying it from inside the wheel(top of nipple and threads) or squeezing it up inside from the outside,do you think one method is better then the other? once in a while spraying the entire wheel with a wd 40 type lube would help? sounds like ill be air drying these things everytime i drive in the rain as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
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Well ifin it was me I would send them right back where I got them and tell them to put Show Polished SS spokes in-End of the problem---Keoke-AZ- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cowboy.gif
john,the chrome wire wheels are beautiful but when they start to rust they realy look like dogy pooh pooh in a hurry,id rather have faded painted wheels then slightly rusted chrome ones,since i recently purchase a new set of daytons that have not yet been put on the car id like to do whatever i can to keep the rust from starting,the clear sealer you mentioned,do you suggest applying it from inside the wheel(top of nipple and threads) or squeezing it up inside from the outside,do you think one method is better then the other? once in a while spraying the entire wheel with a wd 40 type lube would help? sounds like ill be air drying these things everytime i drive in the rain as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
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Well ifin it was me I would send them right back where I got them and tell them to put Show Polished SS spokes in-End of the problem---Keoke-AZ- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cowboy.gif
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John Loftus
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do you suggest applying it from inside the wheel(top of nipple and threads) or squeezing it up inside from the outside,do you think one method is better then the other? once in a while spraying the entire wheel with a wd 40 type lube would help?/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
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Hi Anthony, I was just thinking (dangerous, I know) that the spokes are SS so they are not likely to rust but the nipples are chrome plated steel (maybe they are SS too?). The nipple threads are not chrome plated since that would build up too much thickness, therefore the rust they speak of would come from those threads or around the edges of the nipples. The Dayton spokes are probably all ready sealed from the inside (tubeless right?) but just a small amount of sealer where the spoke goes into the nipple and around the nipple would keep the water out. You don't want to use anything that sets up hard since that would interfere with truing but a very light wipe coat of silicone would fill the opening. It will be a time consuming PITA to do, especially on 72 spoke wheels and best done with them off the car for access. I'd try getting the thin silicone (Permatex Flowable Silicone Windshield and Glass Sealer) and put it in a glue syringe to make it easier to apply (look under glue,oil,brushes at the following site for what a glue syringe looks like https://www.ehobbytools.com/ )
Cheers,
John
do you suggest applying it from inside the wheel(top of nipple and threads) or squeezing it up inside from the outside,do you think one method is better then the other? once in a while spraying the entire wheel with a wd 40 type lube would help?/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
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Hi Anthony, I was just thinking (dangerous, I know) that the spokes are SS so they are not likely to rust but the nipples are chrome plated steel (maybe they are SS too?). The nipple threads are not chrome plated since that would build up too much thickness, therefore the rust they speak of would come from those threads or around the edges of the nipples. The Dayton spokes are probably all ready sealed from the inside (tubeless right?) but just a small amount of sealer where the spoke goes into the nipple and around the nipple would keep the water out. You don't want to use anything that sets up hard since that would interfere with truing but a very light wipe coat of silicone would fill the opening. It will be a time consuming PITA to do, especially on 72 spoke wheels and best done with them off the car for access. I'd try getting the thin silicone (Permatex Flowable Silicone Windshield and Glass Sealer) and put it in a glue syringe to make it easier to apply (look under glue,oil,brushes at the following site for what a glue syringe looks like https://www.ehobbytools.com/ )
Cheers,
John
Keoke
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keoke,i have s.s./chromed spokes,im just wondering were this "rust" is spozta be comin from?,besides if i had to send them back (ask shg about this) laura would have a fit! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif
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Well I know some of the high end European vendors have a proprieto
ary method for appling chrome to SS spokes,but I am at a loss as to why any one would want chrome on SS unless it is the economical advantage of less labor at the vendor and they look like polished ones initially.Show polishing requires each spoke to be done by hand,while plating is a batch process.??---Fwiw---Keoke
keoke,i have s.s./chromed spokes,im just wondering were this "rust" is spozta be comin from?,besides if i had to send them back (ask shg about this) laura would have a fit! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif
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Well I know some of the high end European vendors have a proprieto
ary method for appling chrome to SS spokes,but I am at a loss as to why any one would want chrome on SS unless it is the economical advantage of less labor at the vendor and they look like polished ones initially.Show polishing requires each spoke to be done by hand,while plating is a batch process.??---Fwiw---Keoke
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Hi John,In addition to the "chrome and gold wire wheel cleaner" there is a spray on "perservative sealer" also available from British Wire Wheel that you use after cleaning the wheels.I think it is a silicone based material but there is no chemical content listed on the bottle. However, it does keep their claimed contamination to a minimum.--Fwiw---Keoke