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Between Classic Motorsports and Hagerty, is there any old car or rusted out pos pickup that is not a Classic? What does classic even mean. I have never considered my TR4 (purchased 50 yrs ago) to be a classic or a collector car, cuz I don't think of it that way. It was and is just a fun old car to drive about and I like it. I always thought Classic meant something special, groundbreaking having superb engineering or style; example: dohc four valve engine built in the 1920's. I can understand certain applications of the term, but a push rod whatever bellybutton propulsion plant in a planned obsolescent rust bucket? Sorry for the rant, suffering from seasonal disorder, it is going to snow again.