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So when the house was built the painters as all house painters for builders do, they skimped on the primer and finish paint on my home.
I am working on the exterior stairs where they just finish painted right on top of the pressure treated 6X6 and of course the sap is running and the paint is blowing off all over.
My problem I'm working on now
I have these post with these finials
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I removed a couple to repaint the post and one came out nice like this
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The other unfortunately came out like this
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and the rest of the lag screw is here
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Now I'm pretty sure how to fix them. I will just install a couple of female inserts and use a rod between them.
My question .How do I get the old lag screw out of the 2 so I can install the insert in the center??
Thanks
 
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you could carefully measure the finisher and the post from the center of the broken screw and drill two holes parallel to each other in both pieces. Then insert either two matching hardwood dowels or metal rods that match the diameter of the holes you drilled and push the two together like you were plugging in a cord.
 
Not very secure like that
But an idea I thought of
 
I'd just use a chisel to split the column cap along the grain right through the lag screw. Pop off the pieces, rap the end of the lag a couple times with a hammer and use a vise grip to grab broken piece and turn it out. Drill out the old hole to a size you can get a piece of dowel for and glue the dowel into the hole to fill it because you'll never line up a hole in the new cap with the old hole. Replace and paint the cap and coat the lag liberally with beeswax (a toilet ring seal works fine) before you replace the finial.
 
Great, now I got to pull the toilet to get some of that!
 
I'd just use a chisel to split the column cap along the grain right through the lag screw. Pop off the pieces, rap the end of the lag a couple times with a hammer and use a vise grip to grab broken piece and turn it out.
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I had a similar situation. did the above and then glued them down with PL500. They haven't popped off again in 6 years of freeze/thaw etc. Done.
 
So drill out the old lag in the finial with a bigger hole and plug it with say a 1/2" dowel and redrill the lag into that?

Oh
The Finial is clay or something
I can't figure out what.
Maybe fiberglass?
 
Steve- I want to be able to remove them as I KNOW I will have to repaint .
The south is BRUTAL on paint I have discovered
 
Use something like a 1 inch holesaw and hole saw a hole in a piece of scrap wood center the hole over the lag and screw it in place. Remove the pilot bit from the holesaw and cut into the piece about 1/4 inch. Use a chisel to remove the piece around the lag. Grab the lag with vise grips and back it out
 
Rhodyspit75 said:
Use something like a 1 inch holesaw and hole saw a hole in a piece of scrap wood center the hole over the lag and screw it in place. Remove the pilot bit from the holesaw and cut into the piece about 1/4 inch. Use a chisel to remove the piece around the lag. Grab the lag with vise grips and back it out
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Better yet, use a hole saw w/ no bit just bigger than the lag and the lag will guide it.
 
I don't think you will be able to grab it with vise grips if you do that. I figured with a 1 in hole you could get a good bite.
 
Should be able to carve a little trench around the broken screw with a box knife just enough to get a hold on it with the vise grips.
 
Heck... just use velcro; then you can remove it to paint :rolleye:
 
I had this thought last night sitting on the lanai watching the storm...

What if you drilled a new pilot hole in the post for a new lag stud right next to the existing broken piece using a piece of scrap with a hole in it as a guide. Drill a similar hole in the bottom of the finial. Turn the stud into one or the other and then into the post. Seems like the finial will be off center, which it will be, MOST of the time. But at one point when both holes are at the same relative compass point, the finial will be centered. If it gets tight but isn't centered, screw the lag in or out a bit until it gets tight at the right time. Sound like it will work??
 
BustedKnuckles said:
I had this thought last night sitting on the lanai watching the storm...

What if you drilled a new pilot hole in the post for a new lag stud right next to the existing broken piece using a piece of scrap with a hole in it as a guide. Drill a similar hole in the bottom of the finial. Turn the stud into one or the other and then into the post. Seems like the finial will be off center, which it will be, MOST of the time. But at one point when both holes are at the same relative compass point, the finial will be centered. If it gets tight but isn't centered, screw the lag in or out a bit until it gets tight at the right time. Sound like it will work??
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Sounds like a political ideology. :jester:
 
Rhodyspit75 said:
I don't think you will be able to grab it with vise grips if you do that. I figured with a 1 in hole you could get a good bite.
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EDIT: We're talking about two different methods. I had to read you post again. I'm talking about drilling all the way down where it would drop free afterward.
 
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