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Bugeye door gaps/fit

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How well are doors supposed to fit on a bugeye? Are they supposed to fit smooth to the rest of the body all around the doors? Are the gaps supposed to be uniform all the way around the door? The gap between the door and A posts seem rather large to me, but if I get the door any closer, it looks like it could end up scraping when I open or close it. What would be considered a good gap?
Kevin
 
Kevin, the gaps and the fit were never perfect from the factory. I'm sure there was a lot of trial and error to get the doors to fit. I know you said that you have already had the vehicle painted, where were the doors? Doors are such a critical part of the "look" of a car, they should always be on the car for the body work. It is not unusual to have to "modify" the doors to get the right fit, adding or subtracting material on the edges. If the doors were not on the car and tested before paint, I can say that was a big mistake and you'll have to live with what you have.
Scott in CA
 
Yes, I know I goofed again. The doors were on the car before I had it painted. They seem to fit when I checked them, but the car was gutted when all of this was done. I have also become much more picky as the years have passed. Could adding the suspension have changed anything? The driver side door was replaced, and I did have to trim and weld one side to get the gaps correct. There seems to be a slight twist to it, and I think I can take care of that. I must have not paid as much attention to the passenger side door, probably because it was original. The worst case scenario is that I will have to rework the passenger side door and get it repainted. It has only been two years, and the car has been under cover, so a paint match should be okay. Does anyone know what standard spacing is for gaps for the doors?
 
Kevin, let's take a walk in history.
Think about how cars were built in 1959, not 2010.
(Of course this is obvious, but bear with me).

I worked on a '59 Porsche 356 years ago. Had to swap out a door. Replacement door was a factory '59 and wasn't close to fitting. I learned EVERY door was custom fit at the factory. Now, consider the standards for a Bugeye. I once had a BL factory rep tell me that the standard for door fitting (well into the 70's) was...."if it closes it fits". We talk door gaps (and body gaps) today like there is some kind of necessary science to it. Go back 50 years and no one gave a darn....really. On my wife's german sedan, the gaps are near perfect. This was unheard of when our cars were made.

On the Bugeye, you need to first concern yourself with how the rear top of the door flows into the back panel. If this isn't right, it will just look bad. Once you set that corner height, then figure out where you are at. There is only so much adjustment. On my current project (I am attaching a pic of the driver's door), I probably spent a month getting the gaps and fitment I wanted. (WAY too much time and effort, but this is my punishment for being anal). I ended up shaving two edges of the door to get everything right. Note you also must pay attention to the vertical gap at the rear of the front fender, as it should be close to the front vertical door gap.
I have also had occasion in the past to have too much gap at the bottom of the door. I have added metal and re-worked the bottom to close it up a bit. In order to do this, you must replace about the bottom six inches, as it is diffiecult (at least for me) to try and scab it on the bottom. Note I will not do this again, and will simply live with any gap that is "too much", as the effort to float out the door and get it perfectly smooth is a BUNCH of work. On the door you are looking at here I did not add any metal, just shaved edges.

Finally, be aware that the doors on our cars are supposed to be the same size, but they are not. I have seen as much as 1/4 inch dimensional difference between doors from the same year of manufacture.

Hope this all helps.

Paul
 

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After fidling with the doors a little more and taking your tips, I guess they aren't that bad afterall. The gaps do not vary more than a 1/32. The bottom of each door has the same gap as the bonnet on the bottom, so I left this alone. Maybe I am being too picky. My pics are the greatest, but here is one of the passenger side door.
 

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Kevin-

Bottoms of both doors have nice gap and run parallel to rockers.
Tops of both doors fit nicely to rear quarters.
Front gaps look even and consistent.
Cannot really tell rear gaps from pic angles.
If you have a sufficient, even gap at the rear,
do NOT touch them. Pat yourself on the back for a job
well done and go have a cold one (or two).
I mean it.

Paul
 
Those look good to me -- far better than my doors, that's for sure!
 
so yeah, you're being too picky. :nonono:

seriously, looks more than fine. enjoy the rewards of a job well done
 
dfwip said:
I hate it when I have to find something
new to obsess over...

Paul

send me a PM - I've got a few extras :jester:
 
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