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Big Bucks for Gooding BJ8

MadRiver

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Howdy all:

I just checked the results of the Gooding auction at Pebble Beach last weekend, and a BJ8 went for $74,800. While not the most that a Healey has brought in at recent auctions, I think this is particularly noteworthy because I got to see the car up close and personal, and I can give my impressions as someone who has helped to restore a BJ8 and as someone who lives with and regularly drives a BT7. Also, having grown up in a household where the family business is restoring antique cars (indeed, we were at Pebble Beach because a car my father restored was in the concours, and won an award), I feel rather qualified to evaluate the quality of a restoration. With that in mind, here goes!

First of all, the car was an Old English White Phase 1 BJ8 with a red interior. Overall, a very pretty car, especially to me, since I favor the low rear end and early door handles of the Phase 1 cars. In any event, I would rate the car a 7 out of 10. Here were the issues with the car that detracted from it. First and foremost, the fit of the body panels was, in all honesty, simply poor. Now, for those of you who have read my posts on the subject of fit and finish on English roadsters, I realize that these cars were hand built and panel fitting could be inconsistent. However, for a restored car, this was really abysmal, even to the casual observer. The edges of the front shroud extended above the fender beading by almost a centimeter in most places, especially as it approached the windscreen. This was actually the worst fit on a shroud I had ever seen on a Big Healey. The other issue is that while the interior was generally fine, the carpet was comparable to the JC Whitney carpet that the prior owner installed on our TR-250. Again, this was so obvious that it struck me (and several others looking at the car) the moment I peered into the interior.

I do not mean to denigrate the car. It was, overall, a pretty car. Aside from the terrible shroud fit, and the fact that you'd have to pull the fenders to fix it (at a minimum), I'd have been happy to drive around in it. I realize that Healey prices have climbed in recent years, but this is a car that most of us looking for a comparable car would have purchased from the pages of Hemmings for no more than $40,000.

Anyway, just thought that I'd share our impressions having seen the car. Now, the 100M that sold for $77,000 was drop dead gorgeous. Every square inch was perfect. More than I would or could spend, but really lovely!

Auctions are interesting things!

Best,

B.
 
Hi Bill,

I was at Monterey also this year and it was my first trip. Really enjoyed it and can't wait to get back next year!
I went to a few auctions there and found that Healey prices were somewhat depressed compared to recent years in my opinion.
At RM a beautiful blue over white BJ8 only sold for $57,000. A few years ago this car might have been in the 80's or even $100,000 range in my opinion.
Mecum sold three Bj8's and one was the last Healey shipped to the U.S(Steve Byers has since said there were two after it). That one sold for $45,000.
Also a Blue BJ8 sold for $38,000 and another BRG BJ8 stalled at $47,000 not meeting reserve.
At Russso and Steele the only "stainless steel" Healey did not sell the first time it crossed the block and I was standing in the room when it crossed the block the second time and stalled at $35,000 and did not sell.
Not sure why the white one at Gooding went for such big money but sometimes bidders have more money than sense! Especially ones close to Pebble Beach as that auction was!
Anyway, just another opinion and perspective on the auctions. Cheers,
 
Hi Scot -- Thanks for the info! This was my second trip. Two years ago, my father brought a 1937 AC tourer to the Concours (no prize that time), and this year it was a 1939 AC roadster (third in class). The old man has been at the show with a car nine times and this year's trophy was his fifth. It's an outrageous experience, isn't it?

This year, we also went to Laguna Seca for the first time. A friend of a friend was racing an Alfa GTA and he took us around the paddock and even into the pits for the last two races on Saturday -- we got to see a GT40 take on a whole field of Porsch 908s and 917s. We were also in the pits when a gaggle of Porsche 962s took the track. Man that was outrageous.

Here's an interesting observation. We saw almost every major LBC marque at Laguna Seca -- MGAs and TDs, Jaguar lightweight E-Types, XK-120s, C-Types and D-Types, Triumphs (including a Group 44 GT6), TVRs, Astons, etc. etc. but not a single Austin Healey! We were really surprised by that.
 
Sorry Bill-

Couldn't make it this year...................................I've got the week circled in 2010 though.

BTW the organizers make if difficult for the participate/drivers in this event by only notifying them weeks before that they have been accepted. This makes it almost impossible for the average out-of-state vintage racer to book a hotel, airfare for family and friends, restaurants, etc. I have heard this may change with a new management running future events.

Dougie
 
Dougie -- I had no idea that it was such a challenge. Would have been fantastic to see you race. GREAT photo, by the way! Is she a 100-6 or a 3000? What modifications have you made for racing?

And my hat is off to you, sir. Anyone who would navigate an automobile on the corkscrew has serious fortitude. :bow:
 
Hi Bill,

Congrats to your Dad for even being invited to such an event! What an honor.
I saw that 39' AC by the way and it was beautiful.
Did a lot of things last week and the experience is like nothing I have ever seen! Don't know why I waited so long to see it all.
I was at Laguna Seca on Friday during the practice rounds. Got there too late to see the 100S(green Jackie Cooper car) race but I talked to the owner and he was happy how the car handled. That place is awesome! Can't wait until next year!

Cheers,
 
Thanks so much for your kind words. My dad was really thrilled. We were at Laguna Seca on Friday as well, but clearly missed the race with the 100S -- would have *LOVED* to have seen that. We did manage to see a friend of ours race is Alfa GTA against the Group 44 GT6. We then caught the race with the two Tigers, the gaggle of Cobras (be still my heart), the GT-250s and the lightweight E-Type (my fiancee is still drooling over that Jag). We also went back Saturday and our friend got us into the pits during the last two races. It was cool to see the the Porsche 962s that I used to root against back in the 1980s when Bob Tulius and Tom Walkinshaw were racing Jags against them. The best part of Saturday, though, was seeing a GT-40 (again, be still my heart) battle all those Porsch 908s and 917s.

We later found the guys with the Group 44 GT6 and they were really cool, and let us crawl all over the car.

I'm still on a high from it all!

Hopefully, the old man will be back next year. He's currently working on a 1934 Lancia with custom aerodynamic coachwork, and we've all got our fingers crossed that he'll be invited to the Concours, although his invite rate seems to be every other year. If we're there, we should try to get a BCF get-together at Laguna Seca or at the Concours.
 
MadRiver said:
Dougie -- I had no idea that it was such a challenge. Would have been fantastic to see you race. GREAT photo, by the way! Is she a 100-6 or a 3000? What modifications have you made for racing?

And my hat is off to you, sir. Anyone who would navigate an automobile on the corkscrew has serious fortitude. :bow:

I race a 1957 100-6 MM in the original Florida Green color w/OEW hardtop.
The MM upgrade had the 12 port head, which was been well massaged also 4-wheel disc. brakes, 3/4 race cam and the additional go fast goodies allowed in modern vintage racing. It's not stripped down though, it's still street legal with a full interior.

Dougie
 
What a beauty, and great color choice. Are you running with stock SU carbs? Headers?
 
Bill-

Race modified triple 2" HD8's on a period Ruddspeed performance manifold with custom build HD racing headers, side exit exhaust.............................a little loud.

Dougie
 
Bill -

Here's a short clip from my last race where the intake/header gasket let go and I shut it down due to the
unknown sound and vibration it caused against the fire wall. No damage, just end my day way too early.

Dougie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YjV0xnC_Y
 
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