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Hi Chuck. Good question, I used a heat insulation material under the carpet that fits over the tunnel. I then temporarily glued, ( I used 3M spray-on glue) exactly where I wanted the armrest on the top of the tunnel. Then I took a piece of leather cloth material and glued it underneath the insulation to form a good backing. Then I took it (don't laugh) to a shoe repair shop in the neighborhood, he was very friendly and accomodating and did a superb job of sewing the armrest all the way around, believe me it'll never come off, for a grand total of only $10. What do you think of that?
Good luck with yours.
Good luck with yours.
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Just a quick question. Is your car a later model 100-Six, ie built after September 1958? If yes it should have the pad type armrest show in the picture on the other post, however it should not be attached with tenex studs.
If you have an early car it should have the saddle type armrest that was similar to the 100s. If you don't really care about total correctness Id go for the saddle type anyway , because it looks better. These are attached by four tenex fasteners.
Just to get a bit pedantic on the armrest question for 100-Sixs. On the very early cars, the saddle type was exactly like the 100s with an arched piece that goes around the handbrake. At some time, maybe in 1957 the saddle type was changed to a smaller type with no arch. This can be seen on my website at www.healeysix.net under Longbridge Interiors.
I dont think any supplier makes these later saddle type armrests.
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derek
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If you have an early car it should have the saddle type armrest that was similar to the 100s. If you don't really care about total correctness Id go for the saddle type anyway , because it looks better. These are attached by four tenex fasteners.
Just to get a bit pedantic on the armrest question for 100-Sixs. On the very early cars, the saddle type was exactly like the 100s with an arched piece that goes around the handbrake. At some time, maybe in 1957 the saddle type was changed to a smaller type with no arch. This can be seen on my website at www.healeysix.net under Longbridge Interiors.
I dont think any supplier makes these later saddle type armrests.
cheers
derek
www.healeysix.net
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I dont think any supplier makes these later saddle type armrests.
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Derek,
Do you have the dimensions for the sadddle type in case I want to make my own? They do look nicer. Seems like they are mounted pretty far back though. I wonder if the distance was different for a BN6?
Thanks,
Chuck
I dont think any supplier makes these later saddle type armrests.
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Derek,
Do you have the dimensions for the sadddle type in case I want to make my own? They do look nicer. Seems like they are mounted pretty far back though. I wonder if the distance was different for a BN6?
Thanks,
Chuck
Sounds very secure. So he sewed through the insulation and the carpet into the armrest? Can you see a stitch bead on the outside of the armrest by the carpet? I had heard the right method is to sew it to the carpet from underneath but was looking for an easier way since I figured you would need a curved needle (probabpl using plyers) to do that.
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Sounds very secure. So he sewed through the insulation and the carpet into the armrest? Can you see a stitch bead on the outside of the armrest by the carpet? I had heard the right method is to sew it to the carpet from underneath but was looking for an easier way since I figured you would need a curved needle (probabpl using plyers) to do that.
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I have a black armrest with white piping. The shoe repair guy used small black thread and just followed along the bottom. The result is very pleasing and almost invisible because after some use it will kind of flatten out a little, plus will never shift around.
Sounds very secure. So he sewed through the insulation and the carpet into the armrest? Can you see a stitch bead on the outside of the armrest by the carpet? I had heard the right method is to sew it to the carpet from underneath but was looking for an easier way since I figured you would need a curved needle (probabpl using plyers) to do that.
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I have a black armrest with white piping. The shoe repair guy used small black thread and just followed along the bottom. The result is very pleasing and almost invisible because after some use it will kind of flatten out a little, plus will never shift around.
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Chuck,
I'm sorry I dont have the dimensions. Ive never actually seen a real one of these, they are very rare now.
As mentioned your BN6 should have the pad type armrest and not the saddle type so they were not positioned differently on the BN6 as they didnt exist. As you prefer the saddle type anyway you could get the older type (with the arch) which is supplied by most of the major suppliers. actually I think these are nicer than the one shown on my website. They also fit slightly further forward, the position is determined by the need for the arch to fit round the handbrake. It is attached with tenex fasters the receiving studs of which which need to be attached to the tunnel itself which is fiddly. If you want to cheat you can attach the arm rest with a small metal self tapping screw in each corner and ignore the studs. You wont be able to see the screws because the sides of the saddle come right down to the floor. The heads of tenex studs which are attached to the armrest itself will be visible and will appear to be holding the arm rest in position. (Apologies if Ive offended the purists!)
Derek
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Note: website has been updated with a new section called Brochures
regards
Derek
I'm sorry I dont have the dimensions. Ive never actually seen a real one of these, they are very rare now.
As mentioned your BN6 should have the pad type armrest and not the saddle type so they were not positioned differently on the BN6 as they didnt exist. As you prefer the saddle type anyway you could get the older type (with the arch) which is supplied by most of the major suppliers. actually I think these are nicer than the one shown on my website. They also fit slightly further forward, the position is determined by the need for the arch to fit round the handbrake. It is attached with tenex fasters the receiving studs of which which need to be attached to the tunnel itself which is fiddly. If you want to cheat you can attach the arm rest with a small metal self tapping screw in each corner and ignore the studs. You wont be able to see the screws because the sides of the saddle come right down to the floor. The heads of tenex studs which are attached to the armrest itself will be visible and will appear to be holding the arm rest in position. (Apologies if Ive offended the purists!)
Derek
www.healeysix.net
Note: website has been updated with a new section called Brochures
regards
Derek
OK thanks Derek. On your website (which is great by the way) the old pictures of the 100-6s show the interior of one showing the armrest. It is not the box shape of the ones you can buy now but looks flatter and folded over. You think this one is more original? It is hard to see details but it looks better than the box ones.
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I may have confused things by use of terminology so I'll summarise the arm rest situation for 6 cylinder cars. There are basically 3 types (excludes of course the BJ8). Most people will assume there are only 2.
1. In 1956 when the 100-six was introduced it had an arm rest similar to the 100's. That is the 'thinner' type as you call it, folded over the tunnel and secured with four tenex press studs. These original saddle type armrests were quite deep and covered the tunnel down to the floor with an arch piece cut out to fit round the handbrake. This type is clearly visible in early photos of cars being road tested etc. The artists impression in the old brochures also shows this to. This type is sold by most suppliers.
2. At some point, probably in late 1957, the arm rest changed to the type shown on my site under Longbridge interior. This is still a saddle type armrest, but is not as deep and does not have, or need, a cut out arch to fit round the handbrake. As you also noticed it fits further back than the first type as it butts up against the rear seats. The first type didn't. Few people were aware of this second type and thats why it doesn't get manaufactured by anybody.
3. The third type is the 'pad' type. This is the 'fatter' type you mention which is I believe sewn onto the carpet on top of the tunnel. It is smaller in area and does not fold over the sides, it just sits on top. Not as nice IMHO. All 3000's have this type as do the 100-Sixs made after Sept 1958 that have the 3000 type interiors and detachable top (hood for us Brits).
Now the question. I used to think the pad type was introduced on the BN6 but now I dont think thats the case. The BN6 brochure shows a saddle type, but the problem there is that you can't trust the artist impression brochures, This one is just adapted from the BN4 brochure. But having studied closely some older road test pictures of the BN6 it does seem to have the saddle type armrest of the later type. (2 above)
I believe your car should have this later saddle type and not the fat pad type (sorry if I mislead you earlier but I've learnt something new which is good. Thats the good news , The bad news is I dont think anyone supplies them so you will have to have one made or go with the earlier saddle type which is readily available and I think, looks and fits better than the later saddle type anyway.
hope this resolves the issue. Im glad you brought it up
cheers
Derek
www.healeysix.net
I may have confused things by use of terminology so I'll summarise the arm rest situation for 6 cylinder cars. There are basically 3 types (excludes of course the BJ8). Most people will assume there are only 2.
1. In 1956 when the 100-six was introduced it had an arm rest similar to the 100's. That is the 'thinner' type as you call it, folded over the tunnel and secured with four tenex press studs. These original saddle type armrests were quite deep and covered the tunnel down to the floor with an arch piece cut out to fit round the handbrake. This type is clearly visible in early photos of cars being road tested etc. The artists impression in the old brochures also shows this to. This type is sold by most suppliers.
2. At some point, probably in late 1957, the arm rest changed to the type shown on my site under Longbridge interior. This is still a saddle type armrest, but is not as deep and does not have, or need, a cut out arch to fit round the handbrake. As you also noticed it fits further back than the first type as it butts up against the rear seats. The first type didn't. Few people were aware of this second type and thats why it doesn't get manaufactured by anybody.
3. The third type is the 'pad' type. This is the 'fatter' type you mention which is I believe sewn onto the carpet on top of the tunnel. It is smaller in area and does not fold over the sides, it just sits on top. Not as nice IMHO. All 3000's have this type as do the 100-Sixs made after Sept 1958 that have the 3000 type interiors and detachable top (hood for us Brits).
Now the question. I used to think the pad type was introduced on the BN6 but now I dont think thats the case. The BN6 brochure shows a saddle type, but the problem there is that you can't trust the artist impression brochures, This one is just adapted from the BN4 brochure. But having studied closely some older road test pictures of the BN6 it does seem to have the saddle type armrest of the later type. (2 above)
I believe your car should have this later saddle type and not the fat pad type (sorry if I mislead you earlier but I've learnt something new which is good. Thats the good news , The bad news is I dont think anyone supplies them so you will have to have one made or go with the earlier saddle type which is readily available and I think, looks and fits better than the later saddle type anyway.
hope this resolves the issue. Im glad you brought it up
cheers
Derek
www.healeysix.net
Thanks Derek,
The armrest I have I purchased from ebay and it is neither the pad or saddle type but I don't know if it is the third type. It is wider than the pad type and is rounded in the front but straight in the back. It is padded on top but didn't come with any foam or other filler. I am not sure if it correct but may be the third type. I could send or attach a picture if you would be interested in seeing what you think.
The armrest I have I purchased from ebay and it is neither the pad or saddle type but I don't know if it is the third type. It is wider than the pad type and is rounded in the front but straight in the back. It is padded on top but didn't come with any foam or other filler. I am not sure if it correct but may be the third type. I could send or attach a picture if you would be interested in seeing what you think.
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Chuck.
Its clearly not a saddle type armrest. Im no expert on the pad types but it doesnt like look like one of those either. I think they should have beading all round It probably isnt for a healey. In addition you would normally expect contrasting piping in white or red.
cheers
Derek
www.healeysix.net
Its clearly not a saddle type armrest. Im no expert on the pad types but it doesnt like look like one of those either. I think they should have beading all round It probably isnt for a healey. In addition you would normally expect contrasting piping in white or red.
cheers
Derek
www.healeysix.net