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Any plumbing experts?

NutmegCT

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Outdoor faucet (Woodford 17 Anti-siphon) stopped working today. argh

Turn handle, no water comes out.

Worked find three weeks ago.

grumble grumble
 
Have you tried disassembling to inspect for possible broken valve parts? If that's not possible a new one would run about 30-40 dollars.
 
Thanks. I'll do the disassembly tomorrow after work. Seems weird that it worked fine a few weeks ago - and now zilch.

I tried to turn the valve stem with a channel lock, but stopped when it didn't turn easily. Didn't want to faucet.

:jester:
 
Thanks. I'll do the disassembly tomorrow after work. Seems weird that it worked fine a few weeks ago - and now zilch.

I tried to turn the valve stem with a channel lock, but stopped when it didn't turn easily. Didn't want to faucet.

:jester:
Did you have and big freezes lately?
 
OK - sorry. We haven't had a freeze since early April.
 
I'd like a photographer at the ready when you are looking at the depths of the faucet - and it suddenly decides to work... :smile:

Just kidding!! I find modern faucets last 5-10 years, then need replacing (due to mineral build-up or degraded seals). Go to your favorite plumbing supply store, buy a new valve and screw it in. If the valve is a straight shot through the house wall, it should be "easy" (nothing is!!) to unscrew from outside (or inside if you have access) and replace with new?
 
The progress (?) so far!

Faucet (external freeze-proof) is less than 3 years old; worked w/o problem a month ago.

Following several YT "Woodford 17 repair" videos -

Tried to pop off plastic cover for the check valve. Plastic cover rotates smoothly - but does not pop off.

Turned off water supply. Removed faucet handle, pulled out stem. No problems I could see: no worn or loose parts, packing solid. Reinstalled stem, turned water supply back on, opened faucet valve and ... no change.

Wish I knew how to figure out what isn't working!
 
Does it work at all? IE are there drips or super low flow? Is it possible that you shut off a valve elsewhere in the system? Don't ask my why that could happen.
 
A short and tiny drip when I turn the handle fully on. Then nothing. Nada. Nichts, Rien, Niente, ๆฒกๆœ‰ไป€ไนˆ
!
 
A short and tiny drip when I turn the handle fully on. Then nothing. Nada. Nichts, Rien, Niente, ๆฒกๆœ‰ไป€ไนˆ
!
and might you have turned a shut off valve off and not back on?
 
LOL - that's the first thing I checked! With the Woodford, you don't need to shut water off for the winter.

(Of course ... even tho' it worked fine a few weeks ago, now it seems permanently shut off!)
 
Just need to call an expert, he'll get the water a running. Just maybe not shutoff after though....

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Hey - he's the guy I hired to install the faucet three years ago!

(Water started coming out of the TV soon after he left ...)
 
Can you remove the faucet, temporarily install a run of pipe to a good location, then turn on the water? Make sure the water runs without the valve?? (Isolate the valve as the problem.)
 
Mike - when you say "valve" do you mean the internal valve inside the faucet, that's opened and closed by turning the handle? Some folks call the entire faucet the "valve".

I've removed the faucet handle, removed the packing nut, and pulled out the valve stem - here's a diagram:

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And then opened the supply line valve.

No water came out. Good grief.

So I'm thinking the problem is that anti-siphon valve (#9 in the diagram above) on the top of the faucet. You see it (covered with a plastic cap) here:

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Wish I could figure out how to get that darn anti-siphon valve out! The "pop off plastic cap" won't pop off.
 
Victory!

It took several mighty thwacks with a hammer, then prying with two long-stem flat-head screwdrivers, but finally got the plastic cap off the siphon valve. Stripped the cap's internal grippers doing so.

Then discovered the plastic valve itself wouldn't turn, using pipe wrench, vice grips, or channel lock. Yeesh. Had to use a flat head screwdriver as a "convincer" on the internals, which finally loosened it from the brass faucet head. Then used vise grips to turn it out. Not a pretty sight with the top chewed up, but got it out.

Noticed that the small flat rubber valve inside the plastic valve assembly was in its hole cockeyed. Straightened that out, then girded my loins and struggled to get the now-damaged plastic valve back into the faucet. What a merry circus of adventure!

Put the now-damaged plastic cap back on on the now-damaged plastic valve, and re-installed the faucet valve stem, etc. Then reopened the supply line, gingerly turned the faucet handle and ... it works!

(Now ordering complete new siphon valve assembly.)
 
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