Anti Squeel Pads

[TR4]

I installed Anti Squeel Pads on the 4 and sure enough, that very annoying brake squeel is gone but the brakes are noticably softer. Will that improve once those pads are compressed via hard braking? Just curious.....

 

[2wrench]

I need a set for when the wife listens to
American Idol, especially at the beginning of their
hunt.

 

[TRED]

Where did you get the anti squeel pads? I tried caliper grease and that doesn't seem to help.

 

[TR4]

I believe I got mine from TRF but here is the link for Moss, they adhere to the back side of the pads.

https://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=30860

 

[Geo Hahn]

I have used the blue goo that smears on the back of the pad -- it works with no affect on pedal travel or feel.

I wouldn't expect caliper grease to help as that isn't where the squeal is coming from.

 

[TR4]

What is Blue Goo and where can I find it?

 

[Geo Hahn]

What is Blue Goo and where can I find it?

https://www.permatex.com/products/Automot...Brake_Quiet.htm

Almost any local auto parts store.

I used the 'pouch' packets, 2 pouches on a blister card.

 

[TR4]

Thanks Geo, I suspect my brakes will get better but if not, I'll switch to the Blue Goo.

 

[TR3driver]

I'm in the other camp; the 'blue goo' didn't stop the squeal, but the aluminum shims worked great. Found them at my FLAPS, in the 'Help!' section.

Since they are metal, I don't see how they could make the brakes feel soft ... which leads me to believe you have some other issue like loose bearings.

 

[DrEntropy]

If the feel "softened" after the replacement, it's due to the softer compound. They'll wear faster and make more dust. Go back to the "regular" compound and spray the backing plates with the aerosol Permatex or smear the goo on 'em.


<span style="font-style: italic">EDIT: A ~small~ amount of anti-seize on the calipers where the pad's steel tabs travel on them can help too. A ~film~ not a glob.

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[myspitfire]

NAPA(NAFTA whatever)Does have a quality anti squeal set of 4 for less than $10.00.I know i bought a set & found i didn't need-um.They order them from SC.
Ken

 

[foxtrapper]

Ah yes, the squishy pads. They do leave you a soft squishy pedal as well. In time, you may squish them down between the piston and the pad and get a firm pedal back again.

As it stands now, the piston is squishing through the pad, and then pushing the pads against the rotor.

 

[RonMacPherson]

Doc is telling you true.

The vast majority of "squealing" is vibration enhancement.

Pull the pads out and take a good look at them, the backs, the ends and the sides. Anywhere you can see contact marks, paint scraped off, shiny metal, etc; then you have been getting metal contact.

The pad will set up a vibration on the piston and transmit it to any metal contacting piece which gets amplified by the caliper, etc.

So lightly lube the retaining pins, the edges of the pads where they mount in the caliper, the back of the caliper where it touches the piston. This will take care of the metal squeal.

Now cold brake dust squeal(first brake application in the morning) can be alleviated by a slight bevel cut to the leading(and trailing edge if it happens when backing up) on the pads. If you grind them at the bench, make sure you keep your air intake covered with a paint mask or something.

I have encountered and mostly conquered, as my experience grew, brake squeal on Hondas, Acuras, MB's, Pontiacs, LBC's(Triumph, MG, Rover) Porsche and Mercedes Benz with regularity.

So, please share my experience. It costs you almost nothing, just a little investigative teching.