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Link to info on it at https://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/230/
They were produced 1948-1952, 559 made.
That is a real temptation!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
They were produced 1948-1952, 559 made.
That is a real temptation!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
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You know, I'm pretty sure that Danny Yanda (the guy that runs BeaveRun), owns an Allard.
Not like that one, though.
Not like that one, though.
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I don't think many people have ever seen an Allard P1... I have seen an Allard M-Type drophead coupe that lives in Ontario.
Really, any Allard is a rare sighting.
Speaking of Allard's, I took this picture back in 2001 I think, of an Allard GT, was told by the owner that it was the last car produced by the company, back in 1958...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sherlock77/1999570/
Really, any Allard is a rare sighting.
Speaking of Allard's, I took this picture back in 2001 I think, of an Allard GT, was told by the owner that it was the last car produced by the company, back in 1958...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sherlock77/1999570/
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I think the XK 120 type cars are very stylish, even though they are a bit before my time. Kind of Grace Kelly/Audrey Hepburn-ish.........Dignified yet sporty
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It's actually called an Allard P (not really a P1 -- there was a P2, though.) The most important thing about an Allard P (other than that it is arguable the ugliest Allard made,) was that Sydney Allard won the Monte Carlo Rally in one -- beating Stirling Moss. This was the only time in the Monte's history that a person won in a car of his own construction.
Other than that, yes, I saw that one on Ebay, and even asked some questions of its owner. Not really a desirable Allard, but interesting -- that is if you can get over that nasty bodywork!!!
Other than that, yes, I saw that one on Ebay, and even asked some questions of its owner. Not really a desirable Allard, but interesting -- that is if you can get over that nasty bodywork!!!
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Wow, that Allard GT looks an awful lot like an AC Ace with an E-type roof on it. I like it. I'd own any of the cars pictured so far on this thread.
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I am going to do some more research on these vehicles.
what the car does not possess in beauty.....It more than makes up for in historical significance.
what the car does not possess in beauty.....It more than makes up for in historical significance.
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I don't have any record of an Allard GT, but it looks like a Palm Beach II with a hardtop, which would make more sense, because a 1959 Palm Beach II would be Allard's last car.
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The World's Racing and Sports Cars by Douglas Armstrong (pub in 1958 in the UK, 1959 in the US) lists the Palm Beach Mark II and "Gran Turismo" models as current. The GT pictured clearly has Palm Beach bodywork from the windshield forward.
I've seen this car (or its twin) race many times in vintage events & it's extremely quick. I'm sure the VSCCA website has more shots of it. The book I mentioned above lists available engines as a Jag or Ford Zodiac 6 cyl but I think the GT pictured has a Chrysler or DeSoto V8. Allard used American V8's in quite a few of his cars.
I don't have any record of an Allard GT, but it looks like a Palm Beach II with a hardtop, which would make more sense, because a 1959 Palm Beach II would be Allard's last car.
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The World's Racing and Sports Cars by Douglas Armstrong (pub in 1958 in the UK, 1959 in the US) lists the Palm Beach Mark II and "Gran Turismo" models as current. The GT pictured clearly has Palm Beach bodywork from the windshield forward.
I've seen this car (or its twin) race many times in vintage events & it's extremely quick. I'm sure the VSCCA website has more shots of it. The book I mentioned above lists available engines as a Jag or Ford Zodiac 6 cyl but I think the GT pictured has a Chrysler or DeSoto V8. Allard used American V8's in quite a few of his cars.
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Allard used American V8's in quite a few of his cars.
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One local Allard owner has one with that first OHV Cadillac V-8 and, because it is a roadster, no top. He completed the Rallye Glenwood Springs last year in both rain and, on top of Tennessee Pass, snow, with just a leather helmet and googles for weather protection. Now that's real dedication to "British" motoring! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
The Allard has had a frame-off restoration, but the owner believes in driving his collection--a M-B gullwing, a 1950s Ferrari, several classic Corvettes, etc. So the Allard is also a show winner, generally in the "Other British" or "Sports Race Car" category.
Allard used American V8's in quite a few of his cars.
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One local Allard owner has one with that first OHV Cadillac V-8 and, because it is a roadster, no top. He completed the Rallye Glenwood Springs last year in both rain and, on top of Tennessee Pass, snow, with just a leather helmet and googles for weather protection. Now that's real dedication to "British" motoring! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
The Allard has had a frame-off restoration, but the owner believes in driving his collection--a M-B gullwing, a 1950s Ferrari, several classic Corvettes, etc. So the Allard is also a show winner, generally in the "Other British" or "Sports Race Car" category.
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@MGA Steve
Some people... I just wish I could afford a collection like that... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
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Re: Allard GT/Palm Beach II
My understanding is that after 1955 Allard production was extremely low, that car may well be a Palm Beach II but with production being so low it doesn't necessarily matter what you really call it.
I took that picture at Mosport, at the VARAC vintage racing event during 2001, only saw the Allard one time there, wish I had gotten a better picture and that was back before I got good camera gear, I only got my good camera gear here in Alberta after my move /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif (Alberta... place where hardly any neat old import cars reside)
Some people... I just wish I could afford a collection like that... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
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Re: Allard GT/Palm Beach II
My understanding is that after 1955 Allard production was extremely low, that car may well be a Palm Beach II but with production being so low it doesn't necessarily matter what you really call it.
I took that picture at Mosport, at the VARAC vintage racing event during 2001, only saw the Allard one time there, wish I had gotten a better picture and that was back before I got good camera gear, I only got my good camera gear here in Alberta after my move /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif (Alberta... place where hardly any neat old import cars reside)
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I just wish I could afford a collection like that... (Alberta... place where hardly any neat old import cars reside)
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You and me both. And you could throw in a real (not clone) 289 Cobra and a '62 Vette for good measure! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
If you want to look at some rust-free old cars, just make the "short" trip to Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona. Just get on I-25 and head south (at least you don't have any mountain passes to cross to get here).
You could even contact "frankenstang" on the BCF--he is always roaming junk yards and barns in northern Colorado and finding new prizes--Spitfires, Jensen-Healeys, 429 Torinos, etc., etc. He has then turned a couple of them into fire-breathing, small-block V-8-equipped cars that have done quite well in past $2000 GRM Challenge competition.
I just wish I could afford a collection like that... (Alberta... place where hardly any neat old import cars reside)
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You and me both. And you could throw in a real (not clone) 289 Cobra and a '62 Vette for good measure! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
If you want to look at some rust-free old cars, just make the "short" trip to Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona. Just get on I-25 and head south (at least you don't have any mountain passes to cross to get here).
You could even contact "frankenstang" on the BCF--he is always roaming junk yards and barns in northern Colorado and finding new prizes--Spitfires, Jensen-Healeys, 429 Torinos, etc., etc. He has then turned a couple of them into fire-breathing, small-block V-8-equipped cars that have done quite well in past $2000 GRM Challenge competition.
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Allard used American V8's in quite a few of his cars.
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Most Allards J2s bound for the US were delivered with no engines at all. This is mostly due to the lack of availability of metal and parts in Britain in the post-war era. The chassis was designed to fit big V8s.
My father was big into racing in the 50s and 60s, and he had many friends who owned Allards. All of them simply installed Cad engines when the cars made it to the states. DeSoto baby hemis were also fairly common, although they tended to require more rebuilds and were more expensive.
There are a few around with the Ardun conversion, but these are rare and expensive.
Allard used American V8's in quite a few of his cars.
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Most Allards J2s bound for the US were delivered with no engines at all. This is mostly due to the lack of availability of metal and parts in Britain in the post-war era. The chassis was designed to fit big V8s.
My father was big into racing in the 50s and 60s, and he had many friends who owned Allards. All of them simply installed Cad engines when the cars made it to the states. DeSoto baby hemis were also fairly common, although they tended to require more rebuilds and were more expensive.
There are a few around with the Ardun conversion, but these are rare and expensive.