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James,this will be my last response,my original comment about the model T was for historical perspective only.It was a fact not a slam.If I were to compare ROME to Britian of the 1st century,would that make me a racist or a biggot?I was attempting to give information.Any percieved{well OK} berating done by me was AFTER your imagined assualt by me on LBC's.Remember James the first cut is the deepest.I think you have an unjustified complex about your British iron that you projected on to my post.My evidence are the past posts you directed me to.Undervalued and under-appreciated! YES.Do you not like to spread the word about your A.H.?Do you not like to inform people about thier intrinsic value? Do you not get insulted when people ask if a V8 would fit in it?Do you not get insulted when people ask its value then roll thier eyes and say for get it I will buy a firebird?We ALFA guys feel the same,especially when assulted by an Austin- Chalmers owner dragging a two bottom plow.... heh,heh, Sorry dont really mean that.
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.... you have an unjustified complex about your British iron that you projected on to my post.
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The reverse. Your dander was already up because others didn't consider this particular car as valuable as you did. Your own defensiveness lead YOU to see insult where none was intended. I too have spoken only fact. Nothing I've said (as I recall) constitues a defense of LBCs, its all about the T.
As point of fact my interests are with the Model T and Henry Ford's work and impact on production technology. THAT is my hot button- which you pushed with your deprecatory responses. I've spent days in the Ford Archives, and hundreds of hours researching Ford's work and its impact, and published the odd paper or two in academic journals on it. So when someone however casually mentions the T I pay attention. My comment about Ford doing something right simply expressed the view that the T was successful, and not to be sneered upon. Which you promptly jumped deeper into.
I too believe Alfas to be undervalued and under appreciated. But I do not own one (yet) and haven't your emotional attachment.
I know the Healey's good and bad points, and that mine was a dinosaur even when new. But I think we can appreciate the good (and bad) about other cars without personal offense or unnecessary cutting remarks. The Healey's a likeable dinosaur, and I imagine the Alfa to be a lovely but tempermental prima dona (yes, and the Healey's a tempermental brute).
I, for one, consider the under-valuation of Alfas a positive facet for it means that I can hopefully get a nice one at some future time more cheaply than if people took a more appreciative perspective. I look forward to a bargain, and isn't that what knowing a little something about cars ought to make possible? (and like knowing that the 750 series Alfas are inherently more valuable than other Alfas less well informed people consider similar?)
I'd like a Montreal (though that may change if/when I learn more about them) and I know that it is within reasonable economic grasp solely because it is an Alfa, while if it wore a prancing pony or even a cat badge there'd be no hope whatsoever. That's the reality of automotive markets and no slight is intended.
.... you have an unjustified complex about your British iron that you projected on to my post.
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The reverse. Your dander was already up because others didn't consider this particular car as valuable as you did. Your own defensiveness lead YOU to see insult where none was intended. I too have spoken only fact. Nothing I've said (as I recall) constitues a defense of LBCs, its all about the T.
As point of fact my interests are with the Model T and Henry Ford's work and impact on production technology. THAT is my hot button- which you pushed with your deprecatory responses. I've spent days in the Ford Archives, and hundreds of hours researching Ford's work and its impact, and published the odd paper or two in academic journals on it. So when someone however casually mentions the T I pay attention. My comment about Ford doing something right simply expressed the view that the T was successful, and not to be sneered upon. Which you promptly jumped deeper into.
I too believe Alfas to be undervalued and under appreciated. But I do not own one (yet) and haven't your emotional attachment.
I know the Healey's good and bad points, and that mine was a dinosaur even when new. But I think we can appreciate the good (and bad) about other cars without personal offense or unnecessary cutting remarks. The Healey's a likeable dinosaur, and I imagine the Alfa to be a lovely but tempermental prima dona (yes, and the Healey's a tempermental brute).
I, for one, consider the under-valuation of Alfas a positive facet for it means that I can hopefully get a nice one at some future time more cheaply than if people took a more appreciative perspective. I look forward to a bargain, and isn't that what knowing a little something about cars ought to make possible? (and like knowing that the 750 series Alfas are inherently more valuable than other Alfas less well informed people consider similar?)
I'd like a Montreal (though that may change if/when I learn more about them) and I know that it is within reasonable economic grasp solely because it is an Alfa, while if it wore a prancing pony or even a cat badge there'd be no hope whatsoever. That's the reality of automotive markets and no slight is intended.
Hello James, never say never.My 1st and one statement of fact the model T and ALFA's DOHC supercharged engine pushed your HOT button? That was the shot heard round the world? Your 1st comment, 15+ million model T's, must have done something right even if they didn't have DOHC supercharged engines, was meant to be only informative? No overtones of surlyness? I suspect not.By your own admission you are on the defensive about all things model T. Sorry James,if your 1st comment would have stopped at 15+ million model T's sold and left out the snide ALFA reference this fun time we are having would have been still born.But, alas/alak... I thank you for the kind comments about ALFA's and I am sure you know my fondness of all things British,..Mr Galloway excepted.
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The whole focus of your latest posting is self-justification.
You had your "dander up" BEFORE I said a word. Pardon me for intruding on YOUR rant...
And until I confessed to my interest in the T you happily alleged it was because I was unduly sensitive to slights against LBCs. You're grasping at straws. Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
YOUR tirade juxtaposed a then 15 year old production car to a race car. The supercharged DOHC engine was the characteristic YOU identified in your remarks, but by recycling your own words, I become "malicious" or "surly" or whatever uncomplimentary adjective you next wish to sling. Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
That you're so touchy about it all has been plainly evident. Anyone that reads our exchanges will readily see which one of us has displayed the bad temper, and a continuing desire to justify themselves... it doesn't wash:
McDonalds...
great apes...
"Model T" technology, etc.
Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
Every point you've tried to make about the Model T has been taken apart.
So you resort to personal attacks by alleging I'm sensitive to slights against LBCs (opps, its really the T now you think you know), or malicious, or surly, or what's the next wild accusation going to be? Its childish and so very obvious. And I don't really care what you IMAGINE my motivation to have been. Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
I'll confess to not suffering self-serving fools gladly.
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The whole focus of your latest posting is self-justification.
You had your "dander up" BEFORE I said a word. Pardon me for intruding on YOUR rant...
And until I confessed to my interest in the T you happily alleged it was because I was unduly sensitive to slights against LBCs. You're grasping at straws. Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
YOUR tirade juxtaposed a then 15 year old production car to a race car. The supercharged DOHC engine was the characteristic YOU identified in your remarks, but by recycling your own words, I become "malicious" or "surly" or whatever uncomplimentary adjective you next wish to sling. Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
That you're so touchy about it all has been plainly evident. Anyone that reads our exchanges will readily see which one of us has displayed the bad temper, and a continuing desire to justify themselves... it doesn't wash:
McDonalds...
great apes...
"Model T" technology, etc.
Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
Every point you've tried to make about the Model T has been taken apart.
So you resort to personal attacks by alleging I'm sensitive to slights against LBCs (opps, its really the T now you think you know), or malicious, or surly, or what's the next wild accusation going to be? Its childish and so very obvious. And I don't really care what you IMAGINE my motivation to have been. Pardon me for intruding on your rant.
I'll confess to not suffering self-serving fools gladly.